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Dogmatic Religion / Cult Religion - Steve - 02-12-2018

Dogmatic religion 

Dogmatic religion has been used to fantastic effect over thousands of years to fuel and exploit emotions like fear and guilt, and the feeling of being ‘unworthy’. This has encouraged people to hand over their right to think and feel to a Bible and a priest because they have not had the confidence or self-belief to realise that they have a right, and an infinite gift, to make their own decisions. As the power of religion has waned in the face of ‘science’, politics, and economics, these have become the new religions with new books and priests –scientists, politicians, economists –to whom we can concede our right to think and feel. We are encouraged to deny our own infinite potential. We are “born sinners”, apparently, and one cringes to hear the mass of humanity described as the “common people” or “the ordinary man and woman in the street”, or when politicians describe the population as “our people”, as if we are children who must be looked after by their higher intelligence.

Dogmas take endless forms and when you can persuade different people to hold opposing dogmas, the manipulation of conflict and control through ‘divide and rule’ becomes easy. 

To a manipulator, Judaism is just as useful as Christianity and Islam; the political ‘Left’ is just as important as the political ‘Right’. You need two dogmas to play off against each other and the most effective dogmas over thousands of years have been the religions

One generation takes on a narrow view of life and themselves (a religion) and imposes it on their children, who then do the same to their children, and so it goes on into the modern world.

The two leading weapons used by religions are the emotions: fear and guilt. They have been used to suppress the human mind and to destroy its sense of self-worth, thus creating a physical reality to match. 

Religions are the same thought pattern manifesting under different names - the thought pattern called control. Even the origins of their myths, stories and ceremonies are invariably the same because they all originate from the same source!

As for Hebrew and Christian religions they are the inventions of those who controlled the underground stream of secret knowledge. Even the ritual garbs are the same in so many ways. What do Jewish people wear? Skull caps. What does the Pope wear? A skull cap. This is symbolic of the way priests in the mystery schools used to shave the backs of their heads. The more formal headgear and ritual of Judaism and Christianity are also very similar because they originate from the same source and the Pope’s mitre is the fish head symbol of Nimrod. 

To complete the trio, along came the skull-cap-wearing Muslims and the creed of Islam, inspired by the ‘Prophet’ Mahomet (Mohammed) when he had a ‘vision’ in the year 612. Once more we find that Islam’s roots are in Christianity and Judaism and therefore Babylon. 

Muslims see Islam as an updated continuation of the Judeo-Christian stream and they, too, trace their ancestry back to Abraham, who is said to have emerged from the Sumerian city of Ur and headed for Egypt. 

They believe that Abraham built the Kaaba, the sacred shrine at Mecca, and the focus of pilgrimage for Muslims all over the world. But it was in fact originally a Pagan temple of the goddess Semiramis worship featuring the famous Black Stone. 

W. Wynn Westcott, founder of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, wrote in his work, The Magical Mason , that the Black Stone supposed to have been brought to Mecca by Abraham, was used originally for ancient Pagan ritual. 

Again you see Brotherhood symbolism in this ‘new’ religion. The symbols of the crescent and the curved sword, the scimitar, are identified with the Moon and Venus, the Morning Star, the term used for Lucifer. Venus was also a title for Queen Semiramis. 

Muslims have the idea that Moses, King David and Jesus were divine prophets sent by the one All Mighty God, when in fact all three are Brotherhood inventions. The holy book, the Koran, which was supposed to be inspired by God, mentions Jesus in 93 verses and treats him as a living person. Islam was created by the same Brotherhood networks as the other religions, to further imprison, divide and rule. 

Mohammed was the last prophet and therefore, the Muslims believe, the most valid. As such, all Christians and Jews should convert to Islam, the orthodox Muslims demand. 

The term, Jihad is the ‘Holy War’ that Muslims are urged to wage against all who do not accept the creed of Mohammed. Also, Islam means ‘to submit or surrender’ and Muslim means ‘one who submits’. Some of the bloodiest conflict in history has resulted from the desire of Islam, Christianity and Judaism to impose their creed on each other, when they all come from the same source and the same manipulation! 

The Islamic god Allah is the same ‘god’, the Muslims say, as the Judeo-Christian, Jehovah. The Koran is the Islamic holy book, but Muslims also give credence to the Pentateuch, the first five books of the Old Testament attributed to Moses. In truth they were written by the Levites after Babylon and not by ‘Moses’, which was a title in the Egyptian mystery schools.


RE: Dogmatic Religion - Greg D - 02-12-2018

Don't forget Athiesm, that's this world's fastest growing current religion. Since the beginning of time all cultures have believed in a diety in some form. Its only this present society since the time of Darwin that has been illuminated (illuminati) and didn't believe in a creator. Here's a word from him. Isaiah Ch 29:16 KJV* Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding?. It's a generalisation to say there is no truth contained in the writings of any one who believes in God.


RE: Dogmatic Religion - JTTHEGAME - 02-27-2018

(02-12-2018, 07:17 PM)Steve Wrote: Dogmatic religion 

Dogmatic religion has been used to fantastic effect over thousands of years to fuel and exploit emotions like fear and guilt, and the feeling of being ‘unworthy’. This has encouraged people to hand over their right to think and feel to a Bible and a priest because they have not had the confidence or self-belief to realise that they have a right, and an infinite gift, to make their own decisions. As the power of religion has waned in the face of ‘science’, politics, and economics, these have become the new religions with new books and priests –scientists, politicians, economists –to whom we can concede our right to think and feel. We are encouraged to deny our own infinite potential. We are “born sinners”, apparently, and one cringes to hear the mass of humanity described as the “common people” or “the ordinary man and woman in the street”, or when politicians describe the population as “our people”, as if we are children who must be looked after by their higher intelligence.

Dogmas take endless forms and when you can persuade different people to hold opposing dogmas, the manipulation of conflict and control through ‘divide and rule’ becomes easy. 

To a manipulator, Judaism is just as useful as Christianity and Islam; the political ‘Left’ is just as important as the political ‘Right’. You need two dogmas to play off against each other and the most effective dogmas over thousands of years have been the religions

One generation takes on a narrow view of life and themselves (a religion) and imposes it on their children, who then do the same to their children, and so it goes on into the modern world.

The two leading weapons used by religions are the emotions: fear and guilt. They have been used to suppress the human mind and to destroy its sense of self-worth, thus creating a physical reality to match. 

Religions are the same thought pattern manifesting under different names - the thought pattern called control. Even the origins of their myths, stories and ceremonies are invariably the same because they all originate from the same source!

As for Hebrew and Christian religions they are the inventions of those who controlled the underground stream of secret knowledge. Even the ritual garbs are the same in so many ways. What do Jewish people wear? Skull caps. What does the Pope wear? A skull cap. This is symbolic of the way priests in the mystery schools used to shave the backs of their heads. The more formal headgear and ritual of Judaism and Christianity are also very similar because they originate from the same source and the Pope’s mitre is the fish head symbol of Nimrod. 

To complete the trio, along came the skull-cap-wearing Muslims and the creed of Islam, inspired by the ‘Prophet’ Mahomet (Mohammed) when he had a ‘vision’ in the year 612. Once more we find that Islam’s roots are in Christianity and Judaism and therefore Babylon. 

Muslims see Islam as an updated continuation of the Judeo-Christian stream and they, too, trace their ancestry back to Abraham, who is said to have emerged from the Sumerian city of Ur and headed for Egypt. 

They believe that Abraham built the Kaaba, the sacred shrine at Mecca, and the focus of pilgrimage for Muslims all over the world. But it was in fact originally a Pagan temple of the goddess Semiramis worship featuring the famous Black Stone. 

W. Wynn Westcott, founder of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, wrote in his work, The Magical Mason , that the Black Stone supposed to have been brought to Mecca by Abraham, was used originally for ancient Pagan ritual. 

Again you see Brotherhood symbolism in this ‘new’ religion. The symbols of the crescent and the curved sword, the scimitar, are identified with the Moon and Venus, the Morning Star, the term used for Lucifer. Venus was also a title for Queen Semiramis. 

Muslims have the idea that Moses, King David and Jesus were divine prophets sent by the one All Mighty God, when in fact all three are Brotherhood inventions. The holy book, the Koran, which was supposed to be inspired by God, mentions Jesus in 93 verses and treats him as a living person. Islam was created by the same Brotherhood networks as the other religions, to further imprison, divide and rule. 

Mohammed was the last prophet and therefore, the Muslims believe, the most valid. As such, all Christians and Jews should convert to Islam, the orthodox Muslims demand. 

The term, Jihad is the ‘Holy War’ that Muslims are urged to wage against all who do not accept the creed of Mohammed. Also, Islam means ‘to submit or surrender’ and Muslim means ‘one who submits’. Some of the bloodiest conflict in history has resulted from the desire of Islam, Christianity and Judaism to impose their creed on each other, when they all come from the same source and the same manipulation! 

The Islamic god Allah is the same ‘god’, the Muslims say, as the Judeo-Christian, Jehovah. The Koran is the Islamic holy book, but Muslims also give credence to the Pentateuch, the first five books of the Old Testament attributed to Moses. In truth they were written by the Levites after Babylon and not by ‘Moses’, which was a title in the Egyptian mystery schools.
don't forget scientism the psudeoscience that has taken control that pushes evolution as a fact and a ball earth with cgi as evidence for it. Actual science is never settled and always questioning but evolution is a dogma put there scientism. The scientism crew mock religious people while simultaneously doing the same thing.


RE: Dogmatic Religion - Steve - 02-27-2018

Darwinism, of course, refers to Charles Darwin, the man most effective in achieving a widespread belief in one-life-and-that’s-it.

He suggested in the mid-1800s that the potential of the mind is developed by genetic inheritance. This is patent nonsense, but it did provide the justification for the eugenics (racial purity) movement that would follow and lead both to Adolf Hitler and the population control policies of today.

His work, Origin Of Species, to give it a shortened title, was to become the basis for ‘scientific’ thinking and its mindset dominates what we bravely call science to this day. His most famous theory, that of the survival of the fittest, didn’t even appear in the first four editions. He lifted it from the writings of a contemporary, Herbert Spencer, who had lifted it from someone else.

The word ‘evolution’ did not appear until the sixth edition, in 1872. Even Darwin didn’t believe his theory by the end of his life, and he thought God created human beings. But his Origin Of Species went on to take over ‘scientific’ thought anyway.


RE: Dogmatic Religion - EvadingGrid - 02-27-2018

I have no time for Fundamentalists, that includes the Atheist Flavour.


RE: Dogmatic Religion - Steve - 06-01-2018

US televangelist appeals to followers for $54 million private jet ...
(jet-set luxury style religion amongst the poverty stricken millions)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/30/us-televangelist-appeals-followers-54-million-private-jet/


Preacher Kenneth Copeland defends his lavish lifestyle in the full interview: “If I flew commercial, I’d have to stop 65% of what I’m doing." A follow-up to an Inside Edition investigation....

https://www.facebook.com/71728150722/posts/10156013220065723?sfns=mo


RE: Dogmatic Religion - The Apprentice - 06-01-2018

If one removes the monetary value from religion then those who preach without any physical truths would soon be a thing of the past, their tithe barns would be empty of our true energy, that said, anyone who judges a person on their belief system without giving visual and physical evidences that another can witness directly is a fraud in my eyes and should be ignored, otherwise they will eventually work out a way of fooling you out of your energy and creativity which could be best spent on those who truly want to help themselves, these magi are like a Cuckoo in another birds nest.


RE: Dogmatic Religion / Cult Religion - Steve - 10-29-2018

The Mormon church

The Mormon Church is another ‘vision’ religion which very powerfully locks into the Brotherhood network, as all religions do. The Mormon Church, or more formally, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, was founded by Joseph Smith (Ramses-Piso-Bush bloodline) after he claimed an ‘angel’ called Moroni appeared to him in 1823. 

Moroni, he said, told him of the existence of a book of gold plates containing: “the fullness of the everlasting gospel” and “an account of the former inhabitants of this continent and the sources from which they sprang”. The location was revealed to him, and in 1827 with help from two ‘magic stones’ called Urim and Thummim, he translated the plates into English. Urim and Thummim were, in fact, the names of knucklebones or dice used by Levite priests and the Kings of Israel were said to follow their prophecies. They were used in the mystery school holy place known as the Tabernacle. 

Here we have yet another religion originating from the same source and another perpetuation of the Jesus myth. The gold plates, Smith said, were written in ‘reformed Egyptian’. From this came the Book of Mormon two years later and his followers became the Mormon Church in 1830. The pillars of the early church were Smith, his brother Hiram, and another called Brigham Young. They were all high degree Freemasons and the expansion of this church was funded by Kuhn, Loeb and Company, the Rothschild Bank in the United States.

The vast majority of Freemasons in the world never progress beyond the bottom three levels of degree but above them are another thirty higher levels in the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, which owes its inspiration to the ancient Knights Templar. 

Even the 33rd degree is not the top because there are the Illuminati levels above that, and the 33rd degree itself is unofficially divided into two streams, one knowing far more than the other. At each stage, the initiate is told a little more about the true nature of Freemasonry and the real game plan. Those who have reached the 33rd degree are on a different planet in terms of what they know, compared with the Masons on the bottom three levels. 

Joseph Smith, the ‘prophet’ who founded the appalling Mormon ‘church’, was a 33rd degree Freemason. The men who go down to the local Freemasons’ lodge in your town or city will not have a clue what their organisation is being used for. They have to be kept in the dark if the plan is to work and what better way of doing this than to use these distinct levels of initiation. Only those considered to be ‘acceptable’ progress to the higher levels and find out what is really going on. 

The vast majority of Freemasons are on the bottom three levels. They are the fodder and the front. Between the 4th and 33rd degrees, you find those of the ‘right mind’ who have influence in society, right up to presidents of the United States. Then you have the Illuminati levels, which you will not see mentioned in any Freemasons guidebook. Those are the people who actually run the show and they are the agents of the All-Seeing Eye cult. World Freemasonry is a massive pyramid of manipulation.


The Unification Church / The Moonies

There are malevolent groups dubbed as ‘cults’, which suit or serve the Elite and they are allowed to become global empires. One is the Unification Church, started in Korea and now based in New York. It is led by Sun Myung Moon and is better known as the Moonies. 

This is an extremely sinister organisation with New World Order overtones. On January 15th 1995, the London Sunday Express revealed that the former British Prime Minister, Edward Heath (Bil), had been paid handsomely to make the keynote speech at the Moonies’ Summit Council for World Peace in Korea. In March 1994, he also spoke at Sun Myung Moon’s World Peace Conference, where the main speaker was the former Soviet Union leader, Mikhail Gorbachev, the friend of Henry Kissinger and David Rockefeller. The Knight of Malta and former US Secretary of State and Supreme Allied Commander of NATO, Alexander Haig, has spoken at Moonie events. So has the former US Defense Secretary, Frank Carlucci (CFR, TC). 

The Unification Church has a worldwide business empire which includes The Washington Times, The New York City Tribune, and The Middle East Times. Their list of front groups and businesses in the NameBase system runs to 28 pages and 667 names. Moon’s son and heir apparent, Justin, runs an arms company in Massachusetts called Saeilo Incorporated. 

Its links with the intelligence agencies of the Elite are evident. The Moonies paid $ 50,000,000 to buy the University of Bridgeport in Connecticut and one of the new trustees named was Jack E. Thomas, the assistant chief of staff at US airforce intelligence, and special assistant to the CIA director for nine years. The Unification Church has support from the South Korean Central Intelligence Agency (KCIA).

Bo Hi Pak, the KCIA liaison officer to US intelligence stationed at the Korean Embassy in Washington, became one of Moon’s top aides and president of The Washington Times. Moon’s editor at the Washington Times is Arnaud de Borchgrave, a former leading correspondent of the CIA-connected Newsweek, owned by the Washington Post company of Katherine Graham (CFR, TC, Bil). De Borchgrave is closely connected by marriage to the Rothschild family, the longtime and leading financial and political backers of Israel, a state they were, in effect, responsible for creating.


Church of Scientology

The Church of Scientology (established by L. Ron Hubbard) was named by former CIA officer, Miles Copeland, as one of two religious-type groups with which the CIA made ‘arrangements’. The other was called Moral Re-Armament. The Elite make sure they work through both sides whenever possible, in this case the ‘cult’ and the ‘cult-busters’. In doing so they control the actions and events the public mind sees and absorbs.

Made famous by actors like John Travolta and Tom Cruise, Scientology is certainly a very strange operation. It was of course in the spotlight when Tom Cruise was divorced by Katie Holmes in 2012 amid talk that Scientology was to blame. A source who claimed to be a former Scientologist was quoted by Hollywood Life: ‘Tom never ever thought that the demure Katie ... would ever see the truth and yes he is terrified –terrified that she will reveal all the manipulation that goes on in Scientology. Katie was even told to disconnect from her own family!’ The source added: Ever since she met Tom, she had been living in a prison, she has been living in hell. Katie will be made to feel like she is being followed, that she is evil. They want to make her feel powerless and afraid. Thankfully, Katie’s star status will hopefully keep her safe! 

Scientology treats celebrities like royalty, but Katie saw how they treated regular people. They convince vulnerable people who are suffering that they can save them. But in the end it’s all about control and money. All of us who have escaped are so incredibly grateful that Katie will not subject her daughter to this cult which had nothing to do with unconditional love. 

BBC reporter John Sweeney has had many confrontations with Scientology from the time that he embarked on his first investigation of their activities. He has described how he was put under surveillance on both sides of the Atlantic and how John Travolta called the BBC Director-General directly to complain about him. Scientology denied the surveillance, but it was later confirmed when Mike Rinder, the head of Scientology’s secret police, jumped ship and admitted what went on. 

He confirmed that Sweeney had been put under close surveillance so that they would know wherever he was and who he was talking to. Rinder said that the information was reported back to Church leader, David Miscavige, who went on honeymoon with Cruise and Katie Holmes. Scientology founder, US Naval Intelligence operative L Ron Hubbard, was an occultist who performed his ‘magic’ with Jack Parsons, a devotee of Satanist Aleister Crowley. 

Scientology believes in a ‘space alien Satan called Xenu’, but doesn’t talk about this publicly. It also gleans the most private secrets of its members through a process called ‘auditing’ that involves a form of lie detection. These ‘audits’ are recorded ‘for technical purposes’ and are available to be used to discredit anyone who turns against the Church. Former Scientologist Amy Scobee said that this happened to her when she left in 2005 to write her exposé book, Scientology: Abuse At The Top. She describes how the confessional booths are filmed and made available to Cruise’s mate, Miscavige. 

Further details about the background to Scientology and its major players can be found at http://www.xenu.net.


RE: Dogmatic Religion / Cult Religion - Greg D - 10-29-2018

Gal 1:6-9 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

The greek word for accursed means eternally cut off. Something I have pointed out to Mormons many times, that they and Islam follow an accursed prophet. As I wrote in earlier posts they are also followers of the false Gnostic religion.
As for the reference to Jesus as a myth, I have seen with my own eyes too much evidence to proove that Jesus is alive and is far from a myth.
You point out the false teachings of Scientology, the Mormons likewise have an alien myth. By the way I haven't personally witnessed any actual evidence of lizard aliens and their influence on mankind. So until I do, that belief is a myth to me also. Signs and miracles are the only true proof of any belief system, that is missing from all the the above mentioned, except Jesus. I probably wouldn't have commented on this post, until I read the reference to Jesus, these false religions likewise, try to give themselves credibility by mentioning the name of Jesus in their beliefs.


RE: Dogmatic Religion / Cult Religion - Steve - 10-30-2018

Life of Brian debate -


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t5gm9hoTw6Y