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WAS CHRIST OF ALIEN ORIGIN?
#1
While I’m sure that profound truths have been passed down in the world’s scriptures, should we not acknowledge the numerous contradictions, inconsistencies, and sometimes altered translations over the centuries exist? Exactly how much is factual? 

For example, in a letter to a British newspaper, a reader aptly points out that: “We don’t have His sermons in the original Aramaic, so must rely on varying, often conflicting, translations via the Koine Greek gospels. Indeed, the use of parables by Jesus was a deliberate unclarity that puzzled the disciples (Matthew 13:10–14). 

Much blood has been spilled through the ages ever since, arguing over the precise meaning of His far from ‘clear and simple’ message. How does the sentence: ‘Think not that I am come to send peace on Earth; I came not to send peace, but a sword’ (Matthew 10:34) make any clear sense? 

Nonetheless, if some of the Biblical references to Jesus are more than misleading, such as the following, they seem to support his ‘out-of-this world’ provenance: 
  • The visit to Mary by Gabriel, the “angel” (derived from aggelos , Greek for messenger, transliterated as angelos ), foretelling the “immaculate conception”; 
  • An angel announcing the birth of the Christ, followed by the “heavenly host” of angels which afterwards departed “into heaven (i.e the sky). 
  • The “star” reported by the wise men “which they had seen at its rising” and “went ahead of them until it stopped above the place where the child lay”; 
  • Jesus’s comment to a group of Jews: “You belong to this world below, I to the world above. Your home is in this world, mine is not”; 
  • The so-called “resurrection” witnessed by the apostles when “as they watched, he was lifted up, and a cloud removed him from their sight and as they were gazing intently into the sky, all at once there stood beside them two men in white who said . . . ‘This Jesus, who has been taken away from you up to heaven, will come in the same way as you have seen him go’”; 
  • Paul’s experience on the road to Damascus “when suddenly about midday a great light flashed from the sky all around me, and I fell to the ground” and Jesus spoke to him. Though unable to hear Jesus’s voice, Paul’s terrified fellow travelers also saw the brilliant light, which left Paul temporarily blinded. 
Other possible alien factors to be taken into consideration in this context are Jesus’s evidently telepathic ability, in addition to his healing and mastery of teleportation. In one of his two books on Christ, theologian Holger Kersten provides compelling evidence that Jesus lived in India following his “resuscitation” (as the original Aramaic word implies), dying there in old age and buried in Srinagar, the capital of Jammu and Kashmir. His tomb still exists in Kashmir, and he is said to be revered there to this day. 

For die-hard Christians who dismiss the possibility, they should ponder on the fact that the New Testament has only one sentence (in Luke) about Jesus’s years from the age of thirteen to thirty. Suppose Jesus had later reincarnated and returned again to Earth “in the same way as you have seen him go”: It is doubtful that such a revelation would be welcomed, or even believed, by the Christian hierarchy. 
#2
Hi again. Just a few observations on this Thread. Jesus who never existed in earlier posts, has progressed to now being and alien. God is a Spirit, so he is Omnipresent, thus he doesn't need a spaceship to get around,he is around. Why is it that many people use Jesus name as a swear word. When they hit their finger with a hammer they don't yell out, Buddha or Mohammad,the reason for this is that there is no power in those names. In the name, or the renown of Jesus, people are healed,the dead are raised, people have divine protection in accidents. I know this because it has happened to me.
There are over 90 references to Jesus in the Koran under the name of Esa, which translated means Savior. The Koran also says that Jesus is in heaven and that he will return to the earth. Even though there is a story of Jesus ministering as a twelve year old, his ministry really began after he turned thirty, which was according to the Law of Moses for teachers. You can't have it both ways he can't be buried in India and ascending to heaven, in the presence of angels, or having children in France for that matter. The star mentioned was to do with a significant Astrological event which the wise men had read in the Stars. As Jesus first coming and second coming are foretold in the Stars. Jesus after he was resurrected was seen by over 400 people. Before he left them, he said this.
Mark 16:14  Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen. 
Mar 16:15  And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature (human being from all races). 
Mar 16:16  He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. 
Mar 16:17  And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 
Mar 16:18  They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. 
Mar 16:19  So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. 
Mar 16:20  And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following.
I know this to be true because many of these things have happened to me also. There are 5 signs here which is the number of grace.
The new testament was written in Greek, I know it is accurate as I have a good friend who is Greek and he has read the early texts.
The reference to the sword, is that his words would cause division, because the world is feed 24 - 7 the words of Satan his adversary, Jesus words are directly apposed.
Jesus also said that his kingdom is not of this world, if it were, his follows would fight for him. Another friend of mine who lives in Europe said during a discussion with a Muslim, if I say something against Mohammad or the Koran, you will have to kill me. His reply was yes. My friend said, is your God Allah, not capable of fighting his own battles. He went on to say, my God lives, so he is able to look after himself. As you have gathered, I enjoy a good discussion, I am not easily offended either, as I am over 60 and not part of the snowflake generation. I will go into bat for Jesus though.
#3
Jesus was an Alien article -

https://melmagazine.com/jesus-was-an-alien-6864228e90dc
#4
(02-23-2018, 12:06 AM)Greg D Wrote: Hi again. Just a few observations on this Thread. Jesus who never existed in earlier posts, has progressed to now being and alien. God is a Spirit, so he is Omnipresent, thus he doesn't need a spaceship to get around,he is around.  Why is it that many people use Jesus name as a swear word. When they hit their finger with a hammer they don't yell out, Buddha or Mohammad,the reason for this is that there is no power in those names. In the name, or the renown of Jesus, people are healed,the dead are raised, people have divine protection in accidents. I know this because it has happened to me.
There are over 90 references to Jesus in the Koran under the name of Esa, which translated means Savior. The Koran also says that Jesus is in heaven and that he will return to the earth. Even though there is a story of Jesus ministering as a twelve year old, his ministry really began after he turned thirty, which was according to the Law of Moses for teachers.
You can't have it both ways he can't be buried in India and ascending to heaven, in the presence of angels, or having children in France for that matter. The star mentioned was to do with a significant Astrological event which the wise men had read in the Stars. As Jesus first coming and second coming are foretold in the Stars. Jesus after he was resurrected was seen by over 400 people. Before he left them, he said this.

Mark 16:14  Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen. 
Mar 16:15  And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature (human being from all races). 
Mar 16:16  He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. 
Mar 16:17  And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 
Mar 16:18  They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. 

Mar 16:19  So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. 
Mar 16:20  And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following.
I know this to be true because many of these things have happened to me also. There are 5 signs here which is the number of grace.
The new testament was written in Greek, I know it is accurate as I have a good friend who is Greek and he has read the early texts.
The reference to the sword, is that his words would cause division, because the world is feed 24 - 7 the words of Satan his adversary, Jesus words are directly apposed.

Jesus also said that his kingdom is not of this world, if it were, his follows would fight for him. Another friend of mine who lives in Europe said during a discussion with a Muslim, if I say something against Mohammad or the Koran, you will have to kill me.

His reply was yes. My friend said, is your God Allah, not capable of fighting his own battles. He went on to say, my God lives, so he is able to look after himself. As you have gathered, I enjoy a good discussion, I am not easily offended either, as I am over 60 and not part of the snowflake generation. I will go into bat for Jesus though.

As you say the spirit does work in mysterious ways Greg and well spotted about how Yes-Us changes like the weather, these thread topics are to be expected on a truth forum like no other place in all paradigms around the planet, where there is no understanding of nature and the celestial mechanics which have always been there to observe, observed by ever species that can see and sense light.

Again the onus is often spoken upon the right and title of the Male species as, Him, Pater/father, uncle Tom Cobley and all, when the spirit to our ancestors was neither, but a Hermaphrodite, both male and female, there are many masculine statues carved by the Greeks that point directly to this kind of mind set, Sibyle of Tarquin, and Liberty are two such images.

[Image: Cumaean_Sibyl_By_Michelangelo.jpg]posted image

[Image: 1024px-_Hylocereus_undatus_1.jpg]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hylocereus_undatus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internatio...rsex_Forum

The one spirit which every living and breathing body upon earth followed from the very beginning is the Sun itself, all such conjecture is based upon it and nothing else, the scriptures is non other that Nature under the Sun disguised as God-Spell, it is our uniquness and power of free thought that is both our strength and our weakness.

Some are clever and try to box in the minds of humanity and others are simply truing to survive the many clever Varroa Destructor who are trying to limit our true intuition with their Money, Law and Religion.

The new testament is a culmination of Greek parlance, but it actually originated in Indian and has all the sines of many different codex, but refined by our Greeks Masters via Latin into what is now English, the chosen language for the world, it was always to be this way.

Like science today we have many different Ver-Sions of it, the earliest is the celestial science was free to those who simply looked up on a clear night and then man changed it to suit his training methods, this was followed by Terra Firma by Totism, Shamanism/Hypnotic/Narcotic, and it is also a placebo in the form of sympathetic magic/trance/religion, the laying on of hands is our early medical shamanism using natures bounty of plants, which Frazer and Culpepper used as they grew throughout the seasons.

To the ancestors anyone who was bitten by a snake and survived was seen to be born again/special just as they thought after finding a snake skin after it had slipped out of its old one, for those mildly interested please read the Golden Bough by Frazer.

Another scenario talked about by our ancestors is the affliction called Narcolepsy, here a person comes back to life after going to sleep, in some severe cases people have been burried alive with it, here is the perfect back to life scenario, imagine a body wrapped for burial and in the two or three days of preperation/mourning the person wakes up again.

However if one truly understands nature under the sun, every allegory in all of our bibles can be explained once you have this science under your belt you will realize what a distraction that religion was designed to do while the same mind set prepares for a global opiate and control sysytem.

https://youtu.be/cOfxvsXYkxE

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself.

For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”
#5
What if Jesus is God come to earth in human form. To tell his creation what he requires of them. Perhaps we should consider what he wants to tell us. I guess thats the choice we all have to make, whether we listen to what he has to say or we don't. His message is much simpler than some of the things I have just read.
#6
(04-16-2018, 01:10 PM)Greg D Wrote: What if Jesus is God come to earth in human form. To tell his creation what he requires of them. Perhaps we should consider what he wants to tell us. I guess thats the choice we all have to make, whether we listen to what he has to say or we don't. His message is much simpler than some of the things I have just read.

It all depends upon who is doing the telling and or training, anything else is What If.

When all the messages are already here in nature to show us.

And the single entity that enables it comes daily in passing, which is the easiest thing to see for ourselves.

Of the afforementioned things you read earlier, can be seen and felt, not imagined.

Come = singular

https://youtu.be/XnIFlD5Zvs8

Comes = Regular
#7
Extraterrestrial beings, misinterpreted as Gods?

What are the definitions of “God” and those of an Alien? No one can say that these two terms cannot be combined or that a similar meaning does not define them. God certainly is not from Earth, therefore is extraterrestrial: occurring or existing beyond the earth’s atmosphere, a being from beyond the earth’s atmosphere .....


https://www.nexusnewsfeed.com/article/un...ed-ss-gods
#8
Sometimes the mistake modern people make, as they seek to foster a particular agenda, is to interpret symbolic drawings in a literal way. For instance winged angels are middle ages, artistic paintings that are not based on Bible accounts at all. As people who spoke with angels were often unaware of who they were at first. The symbolic beasts and visions of the Prophet Daniel and Ezekiel had spiritual meanings and then there's the book of revelation. Not only the Biblical accounts but also other ancient writings can be interpreted literally by modern readers, when those who wrote them were interpreting spiritual truths about the subjects, particular abilities (dragons, serpents etc).
Jesus after his resurrection could pass through walls and appeared near those he wished to speak with. He also ate with the disiples and could be felt. After 40 days he ascended out of their sight. The angels standing in the crowd at the time, informed the witnesses present, that the same Jesus would return in like manner. Jesus though he was born of a woman was also the Holy spirit in human form. Thats why true Christians must be also born again of the Holy Spirit to enter the kingdom of God. Yes, the Holy Spirit is alien to this current evil world and it certainly is not from here. If allowed it can still influence peoples lives though. Unfortunately the literal parts of the Bible are taken to be symbolic and the symbolic parts are often taken literally. Alot of these ideas come from 'Chariots of the gods' a movie and book I also saw in the 70s. Those ideas l thought were very convincing arguments up until the day I recieved the Holy Spirit and spoke in tongues
(or was born again).
  


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