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Current Syria spat involving Sibel Edmonds
#1
Like James Corbett, I don't really want to get involved in this but having seen his latest video, which didn't come as a huge surprise to me, I was a little surprised to see that Richie Allen seems to be falling on Sibel Edmond's side.

I don't want an explanation or a discussion, I just want to advise Richie Allen to tread extremely carefully; he is in the middle of a minefield and needs to get out. At the moment, he looks like he is about to play hopscotch.
#2
Richie Allen has clearly hitched his wagon to the Sibel Edmonds train.

I can't trust another word coming from his mouth. He is obviously not as well informed as he likes to portray himself - you only have to listen to how he went off on Count Dankula/Mark Meechan to see how ignorant he was on one of the biggest social media stories spanning the last two years.

His recent article on Sibel Edmonds' hit piece on Vanessa Beeley and Eva Bartlett ends with him saying that he hoped 'that those who have worshipped at the alters of Beeley and Bartlett (and the rest) will watch it objectively'. I hope that those who worship at the alter of Sibel Edmonds will watch this objectively, a film reluctantly produced by James Corbett on this vile and psychotic attack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6IqyfDfImI

I won't be bothering to listen to any more ill-informed rants.
#3
If you place such heart felt feeling for Richies safety and then say you don't want to have a discussion about it, you really must expand on this.
#4
(04-29-2018, 10:45 AM)The Apprentice Wrote: If you place such heart felt feeling for Richies safety and then say you don't want to have a discussion about it, you really must expand on this.

It wasn't concern for his safety, it was concern that he is ruining his reputation by aligning himself with somebody as unhinged as Sibel Edmonds.

Anyway, I just edited my last post to include a link to a video response made by James Corbett on the hit piece film and that is hopefully the last I will be saying on the matter.
#5
(04-29-2018, 10:53 AM)spider Wrote:
(04-29-2018, 10:45 AM)The Apprentice Wrote: If you place such heart felt feeling for Richies safety and then say you don't want to have a discussion about it, you really must expand on this.

It wasn't concern for his safety, it was concern that he is ruining his reputation by aligning himself with somebody as unhinged as Sibel Edmonds.

Anyway, I just edited my last post to include a link to a video response made by James Corbett on the hit piece film and that is hopefully the last I will be saying on the matter.

I have already seen the video, however, what we have here is someone who is a tad better at detective work than the other, so you cannot blame Richie for making decissions without having the time to looking at the bigger picture.

These two spokesmen are as different as cheese and chalk.

You really must expand using your own intuition instead of the other two minds working for yourself.
#6
(04-29-2018, 10:37 AM)spider Wrote: Richie Allen has clearly hitched his wagon to the Sibel Edmonds train.

I can't trust another word coming from his mouth. He is obviously not as well informed as he likes to portray himself - you only have to listen to how he went off on Count Dankula/Mark Meechan to see how ignorant he was on one of the biggest social media stories spanning the last two years.

His recent article on Sibel Edmonds' hit piece on Vanessa Beeley and Eva Bartlett ends with him saying that he hoped 'that those who have worshipped at the alters of Beeley and Bartlett (and the rest) will watch it objectively'. I hope that those who worship at the alter of Sibel Edmonds will watch this objectively, a film reluctantly produced by James Corbett on this vile and psychotic attack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6IqyfDfImI

I won't be bothering to listen to any more ill-informed rants.
I have been watching the Ron Paul Institute lately  and he still seems to have faith in Vanessa Beeley as he is using her regularly for news on Syria as is 21st Century Wire. I have read some stuff on Newsbud and they certainly don't want to let this go.
#7
(04-29-2018, 11:10 AM)The Apprentice Wrote: I have already seen the video, however, what we have here is someone who is a tad better at detective work than the other, so you cannot blame Richie for making decissions without having the time to looking at the bigger picture.

These two spokesmen are as different as cheese and chalk.

You really must expand using your own intuition instead of the other two minds working for yourself.

I have to laugh. You are a senior member on here and I have made just a handful of posts which makes me look like I'm just rubbing my eyes.

I don't want a pissing match but I've been around a long time. I'm almost as old as David Icke and I was 'woke' several years before he wrote his first awakening book, The Truth Vibrations, which a friend gave me in 1991.

In that time, I was probably one of the first 9/11 truth activists in the UK. I know I was the first person in the UK to watch Alex Jones 911: The Road to Tyranny (not that I endorse Alex Jones) even ahead of Paul Joseph Watson. Mine was the first copy that Infowars sent to the UK - I spoke to Violet Jones on the phone and she kept me up to date on progress of the PAL transfer. Starting the day after I first saw it, I was making VHS copies and giving them out as fast as I could copy them (three hours per copy). If I had sought fame and fortune, I could have achieved it by compromising my beliefs and ignoring my instincts and intuition and I have often found myself operating alone because I refused to endorse something which stank and to be later vindicated.

I have been attacked relentlessly over the years for standing my ground and shot from both (and often, many) sides for not taking a side. It was sometimes like dealing with teenage gangs; other times it was like dealing with mafiosi. I have had first hand dealings with many key individuals and I have no doubt that some of them were directly or indirectly involved with government agencies.

One phenomenon I recognised early on, I called to myself the Pied Piper; somebody who would create a following and then lead them off into wasteland and then either keep them entertained there or abandon them. I'm not sure that all the Pied Pipers I have identified did this deliberately - I am prepared to extend the benefit of the doubt to some notable individuals.

I became aware of Sibel Edmonds very early on but never really got what she was bringing to the table and never fully trusted her. She always seemed like a firework that looked as if it had gone out but one should not pick up. On the other hand, James Corbett has always been meticulous, occasionally irritatingly so, but he will never endorse anything with which he does not completely concur.

If you want to equate them with each other, that's up to you. If somebody opens their mouth before informing themselves, they are a fool. And the problem then compounds because the choice is either to acknowledge one's mistake or to embark on a path of confirmation bias and double down on one's assertions. Richie Allen is doing the latter.

If he is not concerned about his reputation, why should I be; it's his business but I felt it my responsibility to point out his folly.
#8
(04-29-2018, 12:18 PM)spider Wrote:
(04-29-2018, 11:10 AM)The Apprentice Wrote: I have already seen the video, however, what we have here is someone who is a tad better at detective work than the other, so you cannot blame Richie for making decissions without having the time to looking at the bigger picture.

These two spokesmen are as different as cheese and chalk.

You really must expand using your own intuition instead of the other two minds working for yourself.

I have to laugh. You are a senior member on here and I have made just a handful of posts which makes me look like I'm just rubbing my eyes.

I don't want a pissing match but I've been around a long time. I'm almost as old as David Icke and I was 'woke' several years before he wrote his first awakening book, The Truth Vibrations, which a friend gave me in 1991.

In that time, I was probably one of the first 9/11 truth activists in the UK. I know I was the first person in the UK to watch Alex Jones 911: The Road to Tyranny (not that I endorse Alex Jones) even ahead of Paul Joseph Watson. Mine was the first copy that Infowars sent to the UK - I spoke to Violet Jones on the phone and she kept me up to date on progress of the PAL transfer. Starting the day after I first saw it, I was making VHS copies and giving them out as fast as I could copy them (three hours per copy). If I had sought fame and fortune, I could have achieved it by compromising my beliefs and ignoring my instincts and intuition and I have often found myself operating alone because I refused to endorse something which stank and to be later vindicated.

I have been attacked relentlessly over the years for standing my ground and shot from both (and often, many) sides for not taking a side. It was sometimes like dealing with teenage gangs; other times it was like dealing with mafiosi. I have had first hand dealings with many key individuals and I have no doubt that some of them were directly or indirectly involved with government agencies.

One phenomenon I recognised early on, I called to myself the Pied Piper; somebody who would create a following and then lead them off into wasteland and then either keep them entertained there or abandon them. I'm not sure that all the Pied Pipers I have identified did this deliberately - I am prepared to extend the benefit of the doubt to some notable individuals.

I became aware of Sibel Edmonds very early on but never really got what she was bringing to the table and never fully trusted her. She always seemed like a firework that looked as if it had gone out but one should not pick up. On the other hand, James Corbett has always been meticulous, occasionally irritatingly so, but he will never endorse anything with which he does not completely concur.

If you want to equate them with each other, that's up to you. If somebody opens their mouth before informing themselves, they are a fool. And the problem then compounds because the choice is either to acknowledge one's mistake or to embark on a path of confirmation bias and double down on one's assertions. Richie Allen is doing the latter.

If he is not concerned about his reputation, why should I be; it's his business but I felt it my responsibility to point out his folly.

I do not want a match and set them as opposites and I said so earlier, IE, cheese and chalk.

Icke or any other researcher is only as good as the good information they recieve, those who are sentient thinkers do not need information given to them and instictively know what is right or what is wrong, many are born with this attribute from the get go, infact all are born with it but have this trait suppressed by the system they are forced to partcipate within.

Age or beauty or popularity does not matter, what matters is what we do for each other and for ourselves, if we can retain our physiclal energy while the rest of the world is being forced to part with theirs then one has half a chance at sanity.

Pointing out a folly is not going to change anyones outlook, what is, is walking the walk, not talking the talk.

If all one does is talk instead of empowering yourself then you are preparing to fail.

If you want to walk tall, walk in shoes of your own making, but do not follow those who cannot.
#9
Agree with OP - except I won't stop listening, my delicate ears can handle it if I don't agree with what I hear.

I find most of Richie's rants highly amusing regardless of my relative position, I admire his passion. On this particular issue though, it makes me cringe, especially as he doubles down, seemingly day after day.

He says in his article on the "excellent" newsbud.com video that he was "annoyed with myself to be honest" for giving Vanessa Beeley and Eva Bartlett a platform, without being tougher.  Well ... regardless of his opinions of  VB & EB (which he is entitled to, though I don't agree with the strength of his conclusions), that newsbud video is truly shocking, and eventually Richie will be more than a little "annoyed with himself".

It's obvious that Richie is passionate about journalism, good on him - but Sibel Edmunds has conned him - it's ironic that he uses the phrase "echo chamber" because that is exactly  what has happened here. He can hold his opinions about the VB & EB, no problem, but going all-in on this video because the headlines agree with his position, well .. I think he'll be embarrassed about it - he should be.

I hope Richie, in the interest of balance, posts an article on the Corbett Report rebuttal, already linked in this thread. Strike that... it would be enough if he watched it and calmed down.

All the hero worship and bull shit threats are pathetic, Richie's right to call it out. Getting emotionally involved in the personalities demonstrates the feebleness of those minds.

Anyway, just thought I'd back up the OP a bit - I am and will remain a big Richie fan ... but he needs to check himself on this - Sibel Edmunds is a monster and definately not an example of ethics in journalism. Watch the Corbett Report rebuttal peeps, for balance.
#10
I had thought that I had said all I had to say on this topic. I am wary of claiming to be psychic but a few minutes ago, I had the urge to check this thread but persuaded myself not to. Then a minute later, curiosity got the better of me and I found that you had just replied, UberBone.

It has nothing to do with having delicate ears. I just have limited time and choose to watch or listen to sources which I consider more credible. I have occasionally listened to Richie Allen for the same reason I occasionally look at some mainstream media sites; simply to see how world events are being reported. I certainly don't look to Richie Allen for information because he has proven himself to be too easily influenced and therefore unreliable.

The way I see it is as James Corbett recently laid it out, in a game of 4/5/6D chess, if you choose a side, you lose. The only way to benefit is to follow the truth to the best of one's ability and identify the Pied Pipers before they can damage you.
  


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