[The Apprentice]

Hi again the statement about the lion, is not quite right. During the real millennium or the thousand year reign after Jesus returns this will be the norm. *[[Isa 11:6]] KJV* The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them. *[[Isa 11:7]] KJV* And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

*[[Isa 11:8]] KJV* And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den. *[[Isa 11:9]] KJV* They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea. No bombs or killing involved here, during this time the devil is locked up for the thousand years.  

Unless there is a powerful intervention by God, there is no hope. At present we are ruled by the prince of the world and his followers. The rule of Jesus the prince of peace, the wonderful councillor the mighty God the everlasting father, sounds good to me. As Bob Dylan once sang youve got to serve somebody, it may be the devil it may be the Lord , but you have to serve somebody.

Not leaving much scope there foor food Greg, sounds like GM feeds all by straw, why not be ruled by neither choice, or no choice as we see today, and rule yourself.

I don't want to dine with a lion both eating straw, sounds like hell to me actually.

[Greg D]

I am glad you still think you have a choice of what you eat, in this present world. My experience is that no food is what it used to be. GM food, chem trails, additives, food snap frozen before it is ripe yummy. As for me I am happy with things returning to the garden of Eden. This time without the serpent. *[[Rev 21:1]] KJV* And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. Sea meaning turmoil as it is today. *[[Rev 21:3]] KJV* And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God (dwelling place) is with men, and he (Jesus) will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. *[[Rev 21:4]] KJV* And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. Sounds good to me, no more GM there.

[The Apprentice]

I am glad you still think you have a choice of what you eat, in this present world. My experience is that no food is what it used to be.  GM food, chem trails, additives, food snap frozen before it is ripe yummy. As for me I am happy with things returning to the garden of Eden. This time without the serpent. *[[Rev 21:1]] KJV* And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. Sea meaning turmoil as it is today. *[[Rev 21:3]] KJV* And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God (dwelling place) is with men, and he (Jesus) will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. *[[Rev 21:4]] KJV* And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. Sounds good to me, no more GM there.

Here we do have some choice of what we eat, as we can grow a ceertain percentage of it ourselves, and it is yummy from our own little garden of eden/nature or allotment, but it does not come for free.

All of what you have respoken is indeed sound good to those who listen to the spoken word, and this is all powerful to those who cannot think for themselves without words, first occult in nature and then spoken in parables, the saying goes, be careful what you wish for, and what others promise you without any proof whatsoever, so I will take my chances and do as much as I can for myself without harming others, this is the best option, the smart option is obsolete.

Eat straw you say, then who is going to grow it for the lions share.

[Greg D]

People have been saying the Lords prayer over and over, religiously for thousands of years. *[[Mat 6:11]] KJV* Give us this day our daily bread. *[[Mat 6:10]] KJV* Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. They are very soon going to get their prayers answered. I hope for their sake they are ready for it. Bread is not straw, though some modern bread tastes like it.

[The Apprentice]

People have been saying the Lords prayer over and over, religiously for thousands of years. *[[Mat 6:11]] KJV* Give us this day our daily bread. *[[Mat 6:10]] KJV* Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. They are very soon going to get their prayers answered. I hope for their sake they are ready for it. Bread is not straw, though some modern bread tastes like it.

People have been eating their own bread or also known as Manna forever, but we wait not to be given our daily rations, we make it ourselves, Marriages and Doves flours we find the best fodder.

I  slightly when I hear the everlasting word" Soon", however a kingdom is what we make of it, there is no kingdom worth cherishing if you wait for someone else to come and sort out the mess for us .

For those following this debate, here is how the minds of those who wrote the bible works, after watching this there might be less doubts to how clever these minds are at creating hero's and enemies for all of us to fight and fear.

One day mankind will wake up to what is being promulgated in their name, eventually.

Icke i right on one thing, we need to rise like lions in unquenchable numbers or its going to be curtains for the majority but not on our terms.


https://youtu.be/zy_J3_pTiiw

[Greg D]

There's a generation that would have to look up, from their phones long enough to rise like lions. I am interested to know how you have come to your conclusions on these matters, seeing as you don't believe in the Bible, which you believe was written by men. I guess this only leaves other books written by men and You tube clips made by men and women. All of mankind's conclusions come from somewhere. Very recently a man in a wheel chair, who by the way many people revered as a scientific messiah, passed to whatever is next. His unproven theory of a big bang gives comfort to a whole generation who don't believe in a creator. Unfortunately it doesn't explain the incredibly complex life systems we can see around us. How did an explosion of incredibly dense matter create our consciousness, how much new life is crawling out of the rubble from the explosions in Yemen and Syria. I believe the Bible was written by the inspiration of God by his Holy Spirit. I came to that conclusion the day I received it my self, and saw my first miracle. Ezekiel Ch 38 names all of the nations involved and the location of the final confrontation, headed up by a Russian federation who are provoked (hooks in their jaws) to come down on the land of Israel. How could men over 2000 years ago even guess something like that. Zec Ch 12:2  Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem. 
Zec Ch 12:3  And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it. To anyone involved in Jerusalem it is a millstone around their neck, as America is about to find out.

[The Apprentice]

There's a generation that would have to look up, from their phones long enough to rise like lions. I am interested to know how you have come to your conclusions on these matters, seeing as you don't believe in the Bible, which you believe was written by men.

I guess this only leaves other books written by men and You tube clips made by men and women. All of mankind's conclusions come from somewhere. Very recently a man in a wheel chair, who by the way many people revered as a scientific messiah, passed to whatever is next. His unproven theory of a big bang gives comfort to a whole generation who don't believe in a creator.
Unfortunately it doesn't explain the incredibly complex life systems we can see around us. How did an explosion of incredibly dense matter create our consciousness, how much new life is crawling out of the rubble from the explosions in Yemen and Syria.
I believe the Bible was written by the inspiration of God by his Holy Spirit. I came to that conclusion the day I received it my self, and saw my first miracle. Ezekiel Ch 38 names all of the nations involved and the location of the final confrontation, headed up by a Russian federation who are provoked (hooks in their jaws) to come down on the land of Israel.
How could men over 2000 years ago even guess something like that. Zec Ch 12:2  Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem. 

Zec Ch 12:3  And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it. To anyone involved in Jerusalem it is a millstone around their neck, as America is about to find out.

The thing is Greg I don't believe in any of it nor who I or anyone else thinks who wrote anything, but it is still predominantly a male orientated and dominated paradigm up until the turn of the last century, which had an ego all of its own, but ego's do not produce anything of use whatsoever, never has and they are twisted and used against anyone who does not want to believe which they cannot produce positive answers for.
I have attempted to show the world how I do things, not in code but in reality and how I have made very many savings, also made lasting relationships from those who did the same, it was and still is very hard work, not for profit, but to empower the individual and to help anyone who asks me for some or part of the knowledge I posses for free, this is what your Jesus would have done if he was real.
The native aboriginal when asked for help by another would answer, what is in it for me, this is natural law in motion, but if we can reciprocate in kind it creates so many avenues of empowerment the whole paradigm would flourish and move away from this way of life very rapidly, this the elite do not want, any kind of stability because as the old masonic motto say, knowledge and reciprocation are the stability of mankind, you see kindness is not an act, but that way of life aforementioned, one simply cannot wait around for someone else do do this for us, not even an imaginary savior, who, if I was one would not care for those who shown no remorse and harm others, why should you turn the other cheek and be thus destroyed.

There is a golden rule which we have the right to choose and a golden handshake that is never forthcoming unless those hands are capable of creating something real for themselves or another in kind.

You do not need a book to tell us this, we already know it deep inside.