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Brexit is never going to happen.
#1
It's as simple as that.... i sit here quite fed up some times at the fact we're being shafted, while friends & family members actually revel in the fact that brexit is being ignored & reversed.

I'm honestly stumped as to what to do, there's only so much you can say without getting infuriated and sounding like a madman (to the brainwashed), I know keeping the message simple and pointing out the hypocrisy does work, and it is ....but that's a drip..drip mechanism, and we haven't got time for that, So what i'd really like is some serious info, links, evidence & advice to pass on.
#2
The agenda is certainly gathering pace day by day. Have you noticed more and more interviews on MSM leaning towards the "BREXIT MAY NOT HAPPEN" narrative? I have and yes it's very frustrating and regrettably there is no easy answer as to what to do. The agenda will continue whether we like it or not, too many people have their head in the sand to do anything about it. I will just keep spreading the spoken word and liking ans sharing on social media facebook, twitter etc and letting people be aware of what is happening. Awareness is the key i think and awakening as many people as possible, even if your message just reaches 1 person per week it can help. Without collective action we are doomed but i can see there being an uproar by the general public if the decision on Brexit is overturned....maybe that's the only way to initiate collective action.
#3
I agree guys it's so frustrating seeing the narrative in the msm that brexit is such a bad thing and having lobsided remoaner views always given priority.
I am so cynical now with anything on the news that I may as well be wearing the awake glasses from the film "They Live"
It is all so transparent to me, I just plant the seeds in peoples minds and hope it roots like it did with me a few years ago.
#4
I'm really frustrated too but never thought it would happen.

I was actually surprised that the vote wasn't rigged in the first place!

A second referendum has always looked like it would be on the cards from day one. If or when it does even the 'Remoaners' should take heed and consider the implications that it will have on our 'democracy'. EVERYBODY - regardless of how they voted - should boycott it, but it won't happen. It's a shame because a zero turn out would really show the well paid liars that we've had enough of them.

What an absolute shambles.
#5
I think a second referendum is unlikely because they know that we ignored their advice on the first one and fear that the leave vote would be even higher. Most likely outcome is a brexit in word only with nothing changing. The powers that be simply will not allow us to leave and it's hard to see what we can do about it.
#6
My concern with Brexit is that if the right-wing ideologues are allowed to push for a hard Brexit, Britain will end up as a low tax, low regulation, offshore hub for the right wing Tory elites. Huge tax and welfare changes might follow. Were they voted for in the referendum?

Also, will that approach in fact lead to less not more public money for the NHS?

Less, not more protection for workers?

Will it simply be handing power from one set of elites (EU) to another set (Right wing tories) ?
#7
Brexit is irrelevant, it is like arguing to be burnt to death by a pile of coal or wood, either one will get the job done,  just one maybe a bit quicker. We are arguing over the system that big business enslaves us by. We are trying to fight the system with a framework that the system has designed, it will never work. Before the Brexit vote I wrote an article on my blog,  it is still relevant 
http://www.ntspace.co.uk/voting-on-the-e...straction/
Peace and love is the only way forward,  if it provokes,  hatred fear and anger then the dark ones gain
#8
(01-28-2018, 11:58 PM)Splodge Wrote: Brexit is irrelevant, it is like arguing to be burnt to death by a pile of coal or wood, either one will get the job done,  just one maybe a bit quicker. We are arguing over the system that big business enslaves us by. We are trying to fight the system with a framework that the system has designed, it will never work. Before the Brexit vote I wrote an article on my blog,  it is still relevant 
http://www.ntspace.co.uk/voting-on-the-e...straction/
Peace and love is the only way forward,  if it provokes,  hatred fear and anger then the dark ones gain
Hi Nigel, had a look at your article on your blog and agree that the best approach would be non co-operation. These elites and structures would be nothing without our support. The whole referendum / electoral system is an illusion to manipulate us into thinking we live in a democracy. Everyone would be better off without these parasites - let’s hope things change soon!
Steve
#9
BREXIT! Be Very Afraid or Not Really!!
https://youtu.be/URVe3j0EJfE
#10
There is one thing that every msm commentator does not mention. We, the people, vote in a General Election. We do not choose the Prime Minister. The only people who have any say in who gets the role of PM are those who have paid for that privilege by joining a political party. The PM decides what will happen once they take that role, and only have to be approved by their political party, not by the electorate. They can buy friends, do favours, whatever they like, to stay in power.

Now also take note what happens after an election. The people believe that they are choosing a government that represents their interests, but look at what happens? Almost 100% of legislation is designed around corporate UK, not the people. Corporate UK does not get a single vote in the election, and yet all governments make policy decisions that benefit them, and this often means taking away rights and benefits from the electorate. How many political parties that opposed legislation whilst in the opposition, reversed that legislation once in power?

This is all becoming apparent during the Brexit process, no one is talking about how this will, or will not, benefit the people who voted in the referendum. All negotiations are revolving around what will, or will not benefit Corporate UK, who again, had no vote.

The EU meanwhile has gone from, Stay In, to You Have Made The Wrong Decision, to You Can Reverse The Vote If You Want To. All of which totally ignores democracy.

They then moved on to Let's Make Things Complicated, and then to Public Threats, and then to Secret Threats.

If this is what is in the public domain, you don't need more than two brain cells to figure out that like icebergs, there is a lot more beneath the waves.

Watch the diversions being put in place. Internet freedom, Equality, Abuse etc, all of the Twitter campaigns that can be created using tech tools and supported by artificial contributors.

As to whether the referendum was rigged? Think back. Even the night before the result, all of the media were predicting a Remain win. Even Farage conceded defeat. How could 100% of all media and politicians. and all of the polls, predict an incorrect result? Is the simple truth that the Remain vote was rigged, but that those doing the rigging completely underestimated the size of the Leave vote. Was the Leave vote actually huge, and that this is the reason why there will never be another vote? The only other options left are:

1. Do what Brussels tells us to, comply with their demands, but never reveal the power structure to the UK electorate.
2. Manipulate another election, allow Labour to win (they tried desperately to do this at the last election and failed). Allow Labour to reverse Brexit, and agree to the demands of Brussels, then manipulate another election that will allow the Conservatives to take the throne again free of all responsibility for what has happened.
  


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