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More Tommy Robinson - Paul Paranoid - 06-23-2018
I had a bizarre interaction with someone over the "Tommy Robinson - Martyr Of Free Speech" narrative this week which ended with the person who had started the argument saying they "didn't care" or even "like the man"
Well that's ONE way to "deal yourself out" if you don't want to discuss it anymore I suppose.
But it got me thinking
Has Tommy Robinson ever been interested in Sexual Abuse against women before ?
Or is it only when they're skin colour is darker than his own ?
Please put me right on this if I'm out of order or this question has already been posited
Co's I have a real problem with someone - who allegedly isn't above a bit of female physical abuse himself - hijacking moral issues to sublimate has own xenophobic leanings
If you don't like people of colour in your country then just BE that as vile as that is - But don't go all pro "me too" ONLY when there's ethnic minorities involved .
That is sinister and disingenuous at best
Eeesh.
PP.
RE: More Tommy Robinson - The Apprentice - 06-23-2018
https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/contempt-court-reporting-restrictions-and-restrictions-public-access-hearings
Mr Robinson walked into a trap by live streaming his day outside court, because he did this he broke the rules regarding reporting live outside a court.
The ruling/loope hole he ignored that go him banged up was to do with what is known as the Fade Factor which basically says, if you use a live broadcast that could be picked up by any member of the jury or witness on the day, that viewing could prejudice the outcome of the Jury and or anyone involved if they managed to see it, which is highly possible given todays technology.
Watch from 5.55 onwards, https://youtu.be/hyPyDvdZDfc
The same scenario has happens when witnesses have managed to come into contact with an opposing body or defence or waiting witnesses in any said case before their hearing in court.
He must have know this or been told by his lawyer what he can and cannot do if he wants to remain the right side of the law.
The same law that treats the innocent until proven guilty model, even when they have been caught and exposed, but the law must be followed otherwise it cannot work as intended.
Many cases have been lost in this way and the real perps can walk away free.
Please do some propper research instead of a poll.
RE: More Tommy Robinson - Paul Paranoid - 06-23-2018
You swrite really intelligently and yet your post has contradictions and ends up being pious and self aggrandising.. So he "walked into a trap" but "must have know this or been told by his lawyer " not to "do a live stream" from outside the court room? - Unwise with a suspended sentence for previous hanging over his head under ANY circumstances?
I should do "research" instead of "polling"- well YOU don't seem to know if Tommy Robinson has a history of interest in Sexual exploitation of women judging by qgat tou DID post you certainly would have said so, and I presume you wouldnt criticise someone else for not researching adequately if you had not exhaustively done so yourself. That would be hypocrisy.
The poll was to ask people's opinions on Tommy Robinson's previous form on standing up for women and was meant to be more of a gauge of people's reaction to the idea I'd posited. I was looking forward - as I indicated - to being informed by someone who KNEW better as I had no confidence whatsoever that Tommy Robinson had such a history or that research would reveal it. However people CLOSER to Tommy Robinson or who have followed him and his channel religiously MIGHT and that is why a Poll was an option.. To gauge response from people who might know a little more but didn't choose to share details. It might not be on the "public domain" at all.
You have provide no evidence to present in answer to my enquiry instead re-iterating detail of the nature of tge details of his offence and arrest easily accessed through rudimentary research and information I was in.no way contradicting or specifically alluding to. My observation is about his ethics. Why are you focusing on the detail of the offence ? Is it that that is all YOU know about and you think you can "show off" your grasp of the legalities; hijacking my thread to be tiresome and superior ? Next to each you reply to one 9f my posts try to keep it 9n topic please . Or maybe u wasn't clear enough ?
I'm NOT talking about his arrest. I'm QUESTIONING his Motives for wanting to COVER the story as I SUSPECT he is disguising his Zenophobia as Concern over Mysogynistic Rape Gangs.
But you tried to lecture me about specifics of the arrest and then saw fit to "crtivise" me for making a Poll for opinion .
Forgive me if I'm being defensive but I've been sorting out overgrown trees today and I small a little short tempered due to a painful wound on my finger.. I suffered a little prick.
RE: More Tommy Robinson - The Apprentice - 06-23-2018
(06-23-2018, 10:27 PM)Paul Paranoid Wrote: You swrite really intelligently and yet your post has contradictions and ends up being pious and self aggrandising.. So he "walked into a trap" but "must have know this or been told by his lawyer " not to "do a live stream" from outside the court room? - Unwise with a suspended sentence for previous hanging over his head under ANY circumstances?
I should do "research" instead of "polling"- well YOU don't seem to know if Tommy Robinson has a history of interest in Sexual exploitation of women judging by qgat tou DID post you certainly would have said so, and I presume you wouldnt criticise someone else for not researching adequately if you had not exhaustively done so yourself. That would be hypocrisy.
The poll was to ask people's opinions on Tommy Robinson's previous form on standing up for women and was meant to be more of a gauge of people's reaction to the idea I'd posited. I was looking forward - as I indicated - to being informed by someone who KNEW better as I had no confidence whatsoever that Tommy Robinson had such a history or that research would reveal it. However people CLOSER to Tommy Robinson or who have followed him and his channel religiously MIGHT and that is why a Poll was an option.. To gauge response from people who might know a little more but didn't choose to share details. It might not be on the "public domain" at all.
You have provide no evidence to present in answer to my enquiry instead re-iterating detail of the nature of tge details of his offence and arrest easily accessed through rudimentary research and information I was in.no way contradicting or specifically alluding to. My observation is about his ethics. Why are you focusing on the detail of the offence ? Is it that that is all YOU know about and you think you can "show off" your grasp of the legalities; hijacking my thread to be tiresome and superior ? Next to each you reply to one 9f my posts try to keep it 9n topic please . Or maybe u wasn't clear enough ?
I'm NOT talking about his arrest. I'm QUESTIONING his Motives for wanting to COVER the story as I SUSPECT he is disguising his Zenophobia as Concern over Mysogynistic Rape Gangs.
But you tried to lecture me about specifics of the arrest and then saw fit to "crtivise" me for making a Poll for opinion .
Forgive me if I'm being defensive but I've been sorting out overgrown trees today and I small a little short tempered due to a painful wound on my finger.. I suffered a little prick.
Do you have any data yourself ?
Did Tommy cover any white rape gangs as well as coloured gangs?
We must question everything surely, related to the thread title.
Rape is rape.
RE: More Tommy Robinson - awakened53 - 08-20-2018
Daily Mail journalist gets caught by Tommy Robinson trying to get pictures of him
The result is amusing
https://youtu.be/UYrYfOHTsYg
RE: More Tommy Robinson - Steve - 08-20-2018
Have a look at the attached link, exposing the funding arrangements of extreme organisations, and where Tommy Robinson sits within that funding -
https://www.neilsandersmindcontrol.com/index.php/jaggyblog
..... Robert Mercer also finances Rebel Media. Rebel media employs Tommy Robinson, Lauren Southern and Laura Loomer all of whom are right wing antagonists that are scant with the facts. Most of these people have at some point been promoted by Breitbart or Infowars.
Tommy Robinson (Stephen Yaxley Lennon, Paul Harris – see the article below) and James O Keefe also receive funding via the David Horowitz Freedom Center which is financed by Robert Shillman who is a board member for Friends of Israel’s Defence Forces. Robert Shillman also provides funding for Rebel Media. Nina Rosenwald, the heiress to Sears, also funds James O Keefe and Project Veritable. Geert Wilders, the Dutch far right antagonist is also financed by the David Horowitz Freedom Centre. The MEF helps fund Tommy Robinsons legal team (he is currently in jail for breach of bail conditions - he jeopardised a trial by filming the defendants specifically against court orders). According to MEF, the organisation is also “sponsoring and organising the second ‘Free Tommy Robinson’ gathering in London on July 14”. The statement was signed by MEF Director Gregg Roman, who has previously “worked in Israel’s Defence and Foreign Ministries”. MEF President Daniel Pipes, meanwhile, has been described by the Southern Poverty Law Centre as an “anti-Muslim activist”.....