(07-05-2018, 06:00 AM)Greg D Wrote: Our current generations are the only ones in the worlds history, not to believe in a creator in some form.
Is this because science and their mainstream narrative, have proved beyond reasonable doubt that we were not created?
The same science, that after they discovered the incredibly complex genetic CODE contained in all life, went on to claim that genetics proved the theory of evolution. Those same authorities also speak freely about the LAWS of nature and the LAWS of physics, and go all out to find the GOD particle, then try to explain it away as natural selection.
The fact that humans can reason at all, is a mystery in itself. The human brain for the most part is unexplained, its reasoning ability, also the brain functions that allow us to problem solve and adapt. One scientist I saw on a TV program, once described the brain as like a library, with many books containing all manner of information in each book. He then went on to say, if parts of the brain are damaged, then the remaining parts becomes the entire library, self contained in the book or books that remain.

The brain unlike a computer can think laterally. When we look at a wall or the horizon, we know that there is a whole world on the other side of it, but a computer can only see the wall. On the same science program, one of the scientists spent 24 hours programing his computer, to come up with a mathematical question, that he believed was too difficult to be answered by a human mind.

As he was showing it to his colleagues, a man who was just passing by, looked at the question and gave him the correct answer. When the passer by was quizzed on how he knew the answer, he replied I don't know how, I just did.

This same principle is confirmed to me personally, when I see a basket ball player throw the ball, from the other end of a court, after the siren and get the ball in. Then the same player can miss two shots from the free throw line. In the first instance incredibly complicated calculations are preformed by the brain, with very little input from the player.

In the second example their is a greater input from the player, along with the perceived pressure of the game. Which restricts the brains function and causes the player to miss the shots, regardless of how many millions of dollars the players are paid to play. Can they really take all the glory, for mastering the tools they have been given.

Then we come to the question of faith. You can still fly in a plane without knowing exactly how it works, or anything about the pilot for that matter. When you try to start your car on a cold wet night, you have faith that it will start, even if you don't know why it does.

Likewise if you don't believe that there is a God and you don't believe he exists, are you likely to witness a miracle?
The answer is probably no. An atheist was rowing on Loch Ness, when suddenly the monster appeared, the atheist cried out, God help me. Suddenly everything froze and God said I thought you didn't believe in me? to which the atheist replied, I didn't believe in the Loch Ness monster 10 seconds ago.

Many people call out to God at some time in their lives, without really expecting anything to happen. Having said that sometimes things do happen, but they are then dismissed as a coincidence, or as good fortune.

My experience is different in that, when I ask God for something miracles happen, but then again I expect them too.
Mat 14:26  And when the disciples saw him walking on the sea, they were troubled, saying, It is a spirit; and they cried out for fear. Mat 14:27  But straightway Jesus spake unto them, saying, Be of good cheer; it is I; be not afraid. Mat 14:28  And Peter answered him and said, Lord, if it be thou, bid me come unto thee on the water.

Mat 14:29  And he said, Come. And when Peter was come down out of the ship, he walked on the water, to go to Jesus. Mat 14:30  But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me. Mat 14:31  And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?

Perhaps God has given us the power to reason, so we can chose to spend eternity with him by choice. Maybe he has chosen also to give us the ability to reason because he is not looking for robots, to share his riches with.
The usual questions arise, if there is a God, why does he let people starve and suffer hardship?

The answer is simple, its not God that causes suffering, it is mans greed, as the earth was designed to provide plentifully for all of us.

Then there is the influence of the evil alternative, that presents an  upside down, corrupted version of creation, designed to deceive mankind and to rob them of a relationship with their creator.

When I consider the amazing universe I see around me, I do wander why God bothers with mankind, but I take great joy in the fact he does.

(07-05-2018, 01:55 PM)Greg D Wrote: Who made you the thought police,  Apprentice.

It seems that because I look at things differently to you, in your eyes I have no right to post anything on this Forum of ideas.

It also seems that every thing I say or put into a discussion has to be stamped with your template of truth, as you see it.

Perhaps you can just let people read my comments and make up their own minds, without your all knowing assistance, to help them.

I wasn't aware by the way that you had been made the moderator of this Forum. I get it, you don't believe God is the creator.

Of course you must have the evidence to prove that.

(07-06-2018, 11:10 AM)Greg D Wrote: I have personally been healed of the symptoms of a stroke, that just left me instantly after prayer. My wife was healed of cancer, my three year old son was healed of a cracked scull instantly by prayer. A member of our church was healed of ice addiction and depression. I could continue these accounts for hours. Many such stories are written in the Bible, the book that you dismissed years ago, by your choice.

I don't have to prove anything to you Apprentice, as I don't answer to you. I have witnessed these signs and miracles personally and in the presence of others including non Christians.

The God I present never changes and is faithful to his word. You have this idea that because you don't believe something it can't be true. Perhaps you need to 'get over yourself' as we say in this country.

(07-06-2018, 09:42 PM)Greg D Wrote: It appears to me Apprentice, that I would have more joy trying to reason with a supermarket robotic check out device. As it seems no matter what I say, or how many times I say it, I get the same scripted response.
'Have a nice Day'.