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on 27 September’21
FINALLY! A Council Admits That Council Tax Liability Orders Do Not Exist!
There are NO COUNCIL LIABILITY ORDERS in Existence! Plymouth Council admits that in writing.
For years people have now campaigned in a number of cases to get these corrupt councils to produce a “True and Original” Copy of an alleged “Liability Order”.
This is the scam that the councils regularly pull off!
1. A summons is issued to you for non-payment of council tax.
2. As you go to court they try to trick you by meeting with you first in a side room. This is
an attempt to have you admit to “liability” for the council tax. They try to have you agree to pay a regular amount each month. This admission of liability by you means that they can secure a “liability order” without you even entering the court.
3. If you do not agree to pay, they issue a liability order regardless.
4. Research has shown that a proper “Court Order” MUST have certain things on it and
these are:
1. A wet ink signature by the Judge or Justices Clerk who signed it on the day (Not a facsimilie of a signature).
2. The Royal Identifier i.e. Royal Coat Of Arms.
3. Once the court date has passed they send a “Notice Of A Liability Order”
And this is where the scam exposes itself ...
If councils had a true and original Liability Order (as described above) then why would they not send you a copy of that? Why would they send you a piece of paper typed up on a word processing program that claims that they have a liability order.
A number of us have not paid council for the last several years successfully because when they are challenged over this, we back them into a corner Lawfully! Here’s how:
1. We conditionally accept their offer to pay council tax upon proof of claim (they must prove a number of points) – if they fail to prove each individual point, we withhold payment.
2. When they send a summons (It’s only an invitation to attend their place of business) we ignore it.
3. When they send a “NOTICE OF LIABILITY ORDER” we write back and send them a “NOTICE OF REBUTTAL” and “NOTICE OF REQUEST FOR TRUE AND ORIGINAL COPY OF COURT LIABILITY ORDER” which of course must meet the requirements as stated above.
4. They then send in the bailiffs whom we serve with bailiff packs (available from www.freedomrebels.co.uk) and issue them with our bills for attending (we also video them and put them on internet video outlets such as http://www.metacafe.com/)
5. Eventually the bailiffs get bored with that game and hand the case back to the Council.
6. The council eventually send a letter telling you they will send you to court “for committal
to prison” proceedings.
7. We then send them a letter which basically says this ...
“If you plan to present the matter before a criminal court and if you will rely on the alleged liability order to support your case then due process and the law dictates that you MUST send a copy of the TRUE and ORIGINAL LIABILITY ORDER to me. The LIABILITY ORDER must bear all the correct attributes (signature & royal identifier).
The law concerning disclosure dictates that you (the council) are required to do this at least 14 days before the hearing.
Therefore, if you plan to rely on this document we will tell the court that you have withheld it vexatiously from the beginning. Therefore, in this matter, the valuable time of the court will be wasted because you (the council) are required to disclose it 14 days before the hearing. You will have no problem sending it to me now. Will you?”
Normally at this point ... the council go away because you have backed them into a corner lawfully. They know they cannot go into a court and rely on a document which ...
BY THE ADMISSION OF PLYMOUTH COUNCIL ... DOESN’T EXIST ON PAPER!
They also know that you are going to counter-claim against them for being vexatious.
Here is the document from Plymouth Council which tells us that all that these liability orders are non- existant! … see FB post
on 27 September’21
FINALLY! A Council Admits That Council Tax Liability Orders Do Not Exist!
There are NO COUNCIL LIABILITY ORDERS in Existence! Plymouth Council admits that in writing.
For years people have now campaigned in a number of cases to get these corrupt councils to produce a “True and Original” Copy of an alleged “Liability Order”.
This is the scam that the councils regularly pull off!
1. A summons is issued to you for non-payment of council tax.
2. As you go to court they try to trick you by meeting with you first in a side room. This is
an attempt to have you admit to “liability” for the council tax. They try to have you agree to pay a regular amount each month. This admission of liability by you means that they can secure a “liability order” without you even entering the court.
3. If you do not agree to pay, they issue a liability order regardless.
4. Research has shown that a proper “Court Order” MUST have certain things on it and
these are:
1. A wet ink signature by the Judge or Justices Clerk who signed it on the day (Not a facsimilie of a signature).
2. The Royal Identifier i.e. Royal Coat Of Arms.
3. Once the court date has passed they send a “Notice Of A Liability Order”
And this is where the scam exposes itself ...
If councils had a true and original Liability Order (as described above) then why would they not send you a copy of that? Why would they send you a piece of paper typed up on a word processing program that claims that they have a liability order.
A number of us have not paid council for the last several years successfully because when they are challenged over this, we back them into a corner Lawfully! Here’s how:
1. We conditionally accept their offer to pay council tax upon proof of claim (they must prove a number of points) – if they fail to prove each individual point, we withhold payment.
2. When they send a summons (It’s only an invitation to attend their place of business) we ignore it.
3. When they send a “NOTICE OF LIABILITY ORDER” we write back and send them a “NOTICE OF REBUTTAL” and “NOTICE OF REQUEST FOR TRUE AND ORIGINAL COPY OF COURT LIABILITY ORDER” which of course must meet the requirements as stated above.
4. They then send in the bailiffs whom we serve with bailiff packs (available from www.freedomrebels.co.uk) and issue them with our bills for attending (we also video them and put them on internet video outlets such as http://www.metacafe.com/)
5. Eventually the bailiffs get bored with that game and hand the case back to the Council.
6. The council eventually send a letter telling you they will send you to court “for committal
to prison” proceedings.
7. We then send them a letter which basically says this ...
“If you plan to present the matter before a criminal court and if you will rely on the alleged liability order to support your case then due process and the law dictates that you MUST send a copy of the TRUE and ORIGINAL LIABILITY ORDER to me. The LIABILITY ORDER must bear all the correct attributes (signature & royal identifier).
The law concerning disclosure dictates that you (the council) are required to do this at least 14 days before the hearing.
Therefore, if you plan to rely on this document we will tell the court that you have withheld it vexatiously from the beginning. Therefore, in this matter, the valuable time of the court will be wasted because you (the council) are required to disclose it 14 days before the hearing. You will have no problem sending it to me now. Will you?”
Normally at this point ... the council go away because you have backed them into a corner lawfully. They know they cannot go into a court and rely on a document which ...
BY THE ADMISSION OF PLYMOUTH COUNCIL ... DOESN’T EXIST ON PAPER!
They also know that you are going to counter-claim against them for being vexatious.
Here is the document from Plymouth Council which tells us that all that these liability orders are non- existant! … see FB post