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A question I would like to ask Richard Dawkins about evolution.
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(06-13-2018, 09:57 PM)Greg D Wrote: The question I keep asking you and your many replies, is what was here first and what started this amazing planet. If it just happened in all it's complex design, then you must believe there was nothing first, and bang, here we are. Every creature with it's amazing abilities and diversity.

Consider the thousands of swallows flying in amazing formation over the city of Rome. Scientific studies tell us they take their lead from the 7 birds situated around them, thats how they move in unison, and split down the middle to avoid a driving hawk.

You must believe they worked that out over millions of years of evolution.
I don't, because 7 is the Bible numeric number for Gods seal. Human beings have an incredible brain and complex emotions, along with the amazing body that carrys it around.

Yes the Godhead pre dates the Bible. The Bible though is the Creator's account of his creation. Why is this discussion about money again, when I have told you already I don't take any money from what I do for God. I just know who to give thanks to for the world and universe I live in. Once again I reiterate, God is science, God is nature, God is physics.

I'm sorry but I cannot give an affirmative answer to where we all came from, nor do I think it really matters, However! I can share what I have seen by observing nature first hand; regardless of where it originated, I deal with the here and the now and what may come in the future if we remain chalked to whore of Babylon and all such ideas of salvation, we need to be our own salvation, to me this makes the greatest sense and challenge.

I say everything is the wrong way around and it is humans that followed, watched and learned from nature, not the other way around, and if you use this process you can clearly see where mans ideas grew and came from, in the book "The Golden Bough" by Frazer it clearly explains in great detail how Totism was where the early forms of religion were instituted, namely "sympathetic nature and magic of nature" this pass time was the first rungs upon the human ladder and food larder of survival, this was not a religion but a way of doing things alongside nature, it has to be otherwise would would never have learned nor survived as nature does, and does so without Mans laws, Money or Isms.

What matters is not that we obey any religious rules or mans books, but what we can do to help each other and what we do to each other and what we create using our pure intellect for the betterment of our community and whole, this is the ultimate neighbourly love in one package, but we simply forgot how to live together.

The words right at the end of this film are quite touching in many ways and could be so much more without the dogma, which true nature does not understand nor follow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBliGIdL_MI

On the fact about survival, those swifts, they all have eyes that can see and work together for their own protection from the hawks amongst them, human believers have no visuals only words that are not very rosey to me and for me this song says it all.

https://youtu.be/nZ5PQppudHc

This song is probably why John was murdered, becaus those who created the dream for us were not ready to let it go before handing us all a new reason to believe on their terms.

There is in all wo-men an, I am, I am, we just need to realize it, instead of hiding behind the greatest lie ever told.
  


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RE: A question I would like to ask Richard Dawkins about evolution. - by The Apprentice - 06-14-2018, 08:36 AM

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