03-26-2018, 03:23 PM
(03-26-2018, 01:44 PM)The Apprentice Wrote:(03-26-2018, 12:08 PM)awakened53 Wrote:(03-26-2018, 08:15 AM)The Apprentice Wrote:(03-26-2018, 07:04 AM)freelotus Wrote:(03-24-2018, 12:04 PM)awakened53 Wrote: Most definitely the case I think.
The way that the CIA has infiltrated the MSM, I think it is certain that they will have most certainly infiltrated the Alternative Media, both to gather information and also to plant disinformation and then discredit it. I think that the big payers in the alternative media and popular websites would be the main targets for them. This war on information and perception is like a spy movie.
i think they go after the small as well, and some of the small ARE them.
there was some very nasty stuff going on amongst a subset of the (very nasty) people (in some cases) covering pizzagate, when at a certain point they turned on one person.
also, you had this (very obvious) disinfo 'ex' cia guy reaching out and volunteering to go on these little channels and be interviewed. either they (the little channel owners) were hopelessly naive, or they were in on it from the beginning.
at least one of them lost their channel during the recent yt purge, but unfortunately not all. and if you come across one of those channels - for example, in a search on some topic - they're still busy slagging off other people (not even limited to alt media figures, but to do with similar or the same topics).
when you see that level of shamelessness about lying and hypocrisy, you are dealing with narcissists & psychopaths - and govt agents fit that bill to a tee. so, they were corrupt from the start.
i just wonder about them putting out a mix of (possible, probable) info - along with disinfo.... what's the point or main angle to the psyop? (though very often there is no understandable point to evil, except to cause pain, negativity, and chaos.) is it to present some truth from such vile sources that it is dismissed, and then when it is inevitably confirmed, years later, they boost the tired line of 'tell us something we don't know, everyone's known this for years'? almost a usurpation of people's right to be outraged.
maybe one piece is to measure how much outrage there will be initially.
Many alternative speakers will have started off as honest agents for truth then as time move forward they realized they have been trapped and simply carry on as they are because they think they have so much to loose by telling the truth.
The problem comes when they have a cult following, it then becomes difficult to tell the truth and the longer they refuse to face their weaknesses the bigger the fall is going to be.
I suspect that over 65 percent of the truth movement has at least one such hidden moment lurking in the background, this is why its best to stick to the things you know best, that way you are less likely to be fooled by the rude amongst society, who's hands ceased working for them but their mind is working against the very cause they could be working towards.
One guy who I think fits this bill is (Ken O Keef), he has done some work in exposing the situation in Gaza but is now making a come back from his funds debackle, for this reason I'm out with this guy, he is now working his way towards another situation.
So true. If you remember when Alex Jones first started Infowars he was exposing some excellent cover ups etc. He had good investigators working for him and he was not on anyone's side. He started going a certain way when he started to "hero worship" Ron Paul and then went firmly into the "Trump is God" camp.
Although he is a bit of a loudmouth for my liking, he was good in the early days of exposing Bilderburg and Bohemian Grove and because of his huge following, got the message out to many people. He was obviously infiltrated at some point but I cannot make my mind if he is a total fraud, or as you mentioned, that he made some bad mistakes and his ego won't allow him to admit it. And lets be honest, he does have a very big ego
I have followed most of the guru's from day one, Jones is one I saw out as early as his first raid by the authorities where his offices were raided and his computers taken away, this was very early days well before Ron Paul, here is where I think he was assimilated and maybe before, he simply cannot be trusted and I will stand by what I have seen.
When RDH brought in the statement analyst for the Megan case is where I saw off Rich Planet also, he never needed to do this to suspect any wrong doing in that case.
I thinkMr Icke is genuine enough even though I don't believe much of what is offered, and will hold some back in reserve for the future, I just wish many of the alternatives would back a self regeneration program which would at least empower dozens if not hundreds even thousands of people looking for real life alternatives to ensure the vital savings, many waste their followers resorces, which could have been used to fuel a myriad of hands on making programs, sort of like the Ubuntu movement, but using skilled and willing craftsmen and women to bolster their own well being.
I didn't really see that from the statement analysis that RDH did on Madeleine. I get what you are saying that maybe it was unnecessary but I think that he had been introduced to Peter Hyatt and thought that it was just extra evidence for his research.
I guess we all see things differently