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MUST SEE: David Icke’s vitally important speech at the Birmingham Freedom Rally on 21-Nov-2021 -
“The dynamic of the few controlling the many is now, at last, out of the shadows. This evil has come and put itself on public display where we, those who have come here, those who can see, are here to bring an end to this nonsense where we can see them… We are not here to fail. We are here to grasp this opportunity – to bring an end to this human control and imposition of eons, and set this world free for the first time in human history. That is why we came and that is what we will not leave without achieving it.” ~ David Icke
https://www.nexusnewsfeed.com/article/hu...1-nov-2021
https://consciouslifenews.com/must-see-d.../11209869/
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Renegade: The Life Story of David Icke (FULL MOVIE)
The first authorized documentary exploring the life of famed conspiracy theorist David Icke, the ‘mad man’ who has been proved right again and again.
https://youtu.be/llYyGCiLDYU
exploring the life of famed conspiracy theorist David Icke, the ‘mad man’ who has been proved right again and again.
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ROSE/ICKE 6THE VINDICATION
Rose/Icke 6 is the final episode of a six part series that started with the broadcast of Rose/Icke on March 18th, 2020 during the early days of the pandemic when the world was paralysed by fear.
That first episode would go on to be watched worldwide over 20 million times and was followed up with our broadcast of Rose/Icke 2 on April 6th, the second largest YouTube livestream in the world that day with over 65,000 concurrent viewers.
30 minutes later that episode, which would have become the most watched video podcast in human history, was deleted and banned from YouTube and started London Real’s famous fight for Freedom of Speech against every major technology platform in the world.
We were banned, censored, deplatformed, defamed, intimidated, hacked, and shut down by every major payment provider, software company, mainstream media organisation, government regulator, and social media platform.
phased, London Real pushed on during lockdown and under extreme pressure. With the help of the globally mobilised London Real Army, we created the Digital Freedom Platform with our own technology and broadcast Rose/Icke 3 on May 6th to over 1.3 million people, the largest live broadcast of a human conversation in history.
Now after five episodes and nearly two years later, it's finally time to look back on everything that was said and put it all in proper historical perspective.
It’s finally time to show the truth that was being told during the entire pandemic and lockdown.
It’s finally time for The Vindication.
https://freedomplatform.tv/rose-icke-6-t...on/#popup1
Rose / Icke VI
Time Stamps
0 min Brian Rose promo
1 min introduction to David Icke, the Rose / Icke series over 18 months
2 min sharing the Freedom Platform
3 min video is free to watch
4 min recap and impact of previous Rose / Icke videos, censorship
5min 57 livestream broadcasts completed by Londonreal during pandemic
7min Brian Rose Mayor of London Campaign / manifesto
8min addressing the corrupt financial system via education
9min David Icke speaks
10min what we have seen in last 2 years - (no)problem / reaction / solution formula
11min the solution - centralised power, deletion of freedom, imposition of fascism
12min it was not a random happening
13min the opportunity to advance their agenda
14min Rockefeller lockstep document - this was pre planned for total control
15min the creation of dependency by the one percent - central global decision making
16min examples of this tyranny around the world
17min the technique they’re using to test resistance - our acquiescence
18min the global cult are finally in full view
19min those responsible are few in number
20min their divide and rule strategy, the control of fear
21min the fear card - China example
22min lockdown / house arrests, repeating lies
23min the 3 groups of people - group 1
24min the press enter people, group 2 don’t want to but still comply
25min group 3 - the renegade minds who will not acquiesce
26min it’s now ‘in your face’
27min what’s happening now - more people are becoming aware
28min the few / the many, human perception
29min the control of information to create the perception but it’s our choice
30min our perceptions are now increasingly changing
31min people losing their fear as they see through the lies
32min the push back in England
33min the Omicron deception - the fear didn’t work this time
34min the experts silence
35min other weapons they might use
36min other countries around the world who are still experiencing real tyranny
37min if we all say no, they lose all power over us as they cannot enforce anything
38min the pivotal group, Australia example
39min reality check
40min the transformation / awakening in people
41min the fake variants, short timescales, the ongoing script
42min further events to steer us towards a hunger games society
43min the effect on businesses, the destruction of independent businesses
44min the guaranteed income link to control and social credit scores
45min the China blueprint, Mao cult revolution
46min mass control system in China is being played out across the world
47min China’s influence - global system
48min the AI system in China - implications
49min the real reason behind Vaccine passports
50min one vaccine after another, never ending
51min the green pass / green passport alias
52min other restrictions and impositions via climate agenda
53min the carbon bible, limits, restrictions, implications
54min the vaccine pass will turn into the social credit system
55min the techniques of human control, this transformation becomes obvious
56min where all this is leading to but how we can eventually stop this
57min how the fear of death is used as a weapon of control
58min the bio weapon is the fake vaccine, not the fake virus
59min there is no virus, why people are dying
60min there is no proof whatsoever of the existence of Covid 19 virus
61min China even confirmed this in 2020
62min false claims by labs about isolation of virus
63min faulty lab processes
64min the flawed John Enders lab process has been used since the 1950s
66min Thomas Milton Rivers, father of virology was from 1930s Rockefeller Institute
67min the same people who are behind big pharma / allopathic medicine / vaccines
68min Bill Gates linked to Rockefellers, the WHO and Tedros are linked to Gates
69min Freedom Of Information (FOI) requests re isolation of SARS COV 2 virus
70min its a computer program, Christian Drosden’s fake PCR test
71min synthetic versions of the virus were used, Cary Mullis stated the PCR cannot
72min be used as a diagnostic tool and can’t tell you if you’re sick
73min Roche PCR text says it cannot be used for diagnosis of a Coronavirus
74min the ‘case’ illusion has created a false pandemic claim
75min the Covid 19 Death certificate scam, financial incentives to use Covid 19
76min if the virus was so dangerous, you wouldn’t have to fake the tests / diagnosis
77min the tremendous lies, deceit and data manipulation, the zero flu cases
78min flu redesignated as Covid, lateral flow
79min funeral directors confirmation that no more than usual died in 2020
80min the excess deaths increase since the start of the vaccine rollout
81min ‘A Good Death’ documentary, the first wave, Midazolam misuse in care homes
82min do not resuscitate / DNR notice misuse
83min end of life protocol for the old, high levels of drug used
84min the scale of evil, Fauci and the drug Remdesivir which causes organ failure …
85min kidney failure leads to lung failure - first wave in the US - Michigan, New York
86min the illusion of a deadly virus to put fear in people
87min the plan to create a different type of human via the vaccine -
88min phasing in human 2.0 - connect to AI, phasing out Human 1.0
89min worldwide sperm count drop
90min infertility in women through the vaccine - synthetic genetic material
91min why the push for vaccination? Why vaccinate the children?
92min the old people and young people comparison
93min they want the vaccine in everyone, why? advisory committees
94min decision making handed over to unelected officials, nothing to do with health
95min huge numbers of people of all ages have been killed by this vaccine
96min excess deaths in all age groups have died from the vaccine - covered up by msm
97min the death and injuries of sportsmen and women due to the vaccine
98min the medical profession just close ranks
99min an example of exemption rejection
100min many doctors will not speak out - they’re not doctors - medical profession shame
101min advice for those who have already had the vaccine - stop having more
102min the Slovakian whistleblower - celebs and politicians get the saline solution
103min it’s Russian Roulette
104min what is the vaccine targeting? DNA/RNA?
105min the cult agenda that has to be stopped - this is what they’re planning
106min following the script, they are now admitting that the vaccine is useless
107min the fake positive test
108min the financial / money factor, the freedom / choice limitation
109min control of money / people / choice / basic income
110min changing global finance, single world currency, cashless society
111min creative destruction - WWI example, then WW2 further centralisation
112min crashing the global economy
113min their goal - a global structure via a world government
114min bankrupt countries, fake money, inflation
115min the systematic destruction of the supply chain - add to inflation
116min the guaranteed income mechanism - total control over us
117min the web / cult of secret societies that own everything, China
118min the economy is deliberately suppressed to create chaos
119min their plan to be ‘our saviours’ - debt forgiveness in exchange for our assets
120min Schwab - you will own nothing, private property, everyone renting
121min huge swathes of real estate being brought up by these individuals
122min other events to be played out in the near future
123min decentralising the control - cryptocurrencies
124min necessity is the mother of inventions
125min financial and perceptual dependency, hierarchical dependency danger
126min the system dependency, the challenge to this
127min turning this destruction into something advantageous for all, freedom of choice
128min taking us into another direction depends on our perception
129min the opportunity that we have to free ourselves
130min they are controlling our perceptions - the EU, globalisation
131min the few controlling the many through the centralised hierarchical system
132min taking away centralised power in order to hand back power to sovereign people
133min the acquiescence of the many, the pyramid example - climate / virus hoax etc
134min the levels of hierarchy that have no idea what’s happening
135min if we allow the circuit of acquiescence to be completed, they have absolute power
136min we need renegade minds / hearts, critical thinking, non cooperation
137min what are they are terrified of? when we show our power
138min the Iron Lady / poll tax example - effect on middle / working classes
139min the poll tax united both these groups, Thatcher exposed
140min what we need today - the political system to be controlled by the people
141min the covid / mask example
142min doing our research into what they tell us to do, countering the narrative
143min the social distancing example - I will decide, not you
144min the power of authority is a psychological trick, don’t give away your power
145min the renegade mind explained - what it actually means, receiving the info, research
146min the BBC example, a cult controlled organisation as with the rest of mainstream
147min finding other sources of information to counter the official narrative
148min having your self respect - reasons why we need to resist
149min acquiescing and conceding self respect danger, restaurant example
150min the morons who are currently in power - Australia example
151min chief medical officer in Australia, Biden examples
152min why are we obeying these morons? the war on the human psyche / spirit
153min what does it make you if you follow these morons, what are the consequences
154min do what you know to be right, sod the consequences
155min if enough people did this, it would transform us
156min why are they demonising those refusing the jab? You are in group 3
157min what it means not to have the jab
158min unjabbed health workers, the unjabbed US military - reason why they’re doing it
159min the doc workers example, all walked out - they won
160min the shameful trade unions
161min what the unions should be doing but are not, sod the unions
162min standing up for yourself, sovereign individuals, if enough did this, use your power
163min the psychological block that people have
164min looking back in history shows the same dynamic - needs to change
165min let’s stop being controlled, Mark Drakeford example
166min … he’s a moron, why are we listening? Nicola Sturgeon example, they can sod off
167min the pea brain and the pocket dictator are dictating to us
168min stop acquiescing and get your freedom back
169min waiting for a knight in shining armour to save us - do it yourself
170min what are we going to do now, take back your power
171min we have a great chance as they have been exposed
172min re evaluating everything, the great progress made, keep going
173min the cult through history, colonisation effect, independence meant covert control
174min the global reach, impact and centralisation, not random - all coordinated
175min the spider / central point, the web, subsidiaries all controlled centrally
176min the strands - secret societies, masons, jesuits, knits of Malta
177min the cusp organisations - TFR, Trilateral, Club of Rome, UN - all connected
178min the NGOSs - how the web was used to roll out the Covid scam
179min the use of censorship from these groups
180min they control everything just different arms of the same cult
181min the cult control of big pharma, Rockefeller etc in key positions of power
182min why these organisations get permission - children’s Covid vaccine example
183min the moron psychology but people still obey these morons
184min the destruction of America, the Southern border
185min the rise of China is down to the will of this cult, massive web / agenda in play
186min why they are able to get away with these things - it’s our acquiescence
187min our consciousness, labels are not who we really are
188min we are eternal consciousness, not a label
189min what will you say to your children / grandchildren?
190min what each of us needs to do
191min don’t listen to me, do your own research, the greater love
192min we are different points of attention within the same consciousness
193min the agenda is about disconnecting the body/mind from expanded consciousness
194min the purpose of secret societies
195min - keeping the population in ignorance-stopping our expanded awareness potential
196min opening your mind to all possibilities - away from the 5 sense perception
197min our 5 senses only see division and everything being apart but we are all one
198min the ‘I’ is our consciousness having that experience
199min shutting ourself off by relying on 5 senses - seeing the cults false version of reality
200min what the ‘I’ really is
201min setting yourself free from the 5 sense reality
202min giving your power away by not realising our uniqueness and unity
203min why are we always competing? Why are we looking at differences?
204min I am you and you are me - we are not separate, we are not isolated
205min press enter people equates to a 5 sense prison reality
206min we perceive ourselves as 5 sense labels
207min this is why the cult is controlling humanity by separating and dividing
208min when we realise this, the world will change
209min a message of union / unity, keep speaking your truth
210min closing comments, use your worst nightmare to set you free
211min the victim or the opportunity mode
212min grasping the opportunity, the consequences of not standing up
213min the line in the sand, staying optimistic
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Rose Icke VI clips …
Love Will Save Us - David Icke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?utm_source...e=youtu.be
Stop Trusting The Mainstream Media | David Icke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?utm_source...e=youtu.be
“The Few Control The Many.” | David Icke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?utm_source...e=youtu.be
“Stop acquiescing and you’ll get your freedom back.” | David Icke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?utm_source...e=youtu.be
“This cult [has] a global reach and global impact.” David Icke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J9BRNZL...l+19+CLIPS
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Davidicke.com being censored by phone providers? Why are they all so terrified of David Icke? He’s just a nutter, right?
Hello there,
I’ve been fan of David for many many years. Recently I’ve stopped working from home and had to start working outside, where I have to use my mobile data.
My provider is Lebara (they operate under Vodafone network in UK), and the thing I’ve started experiencing is that my mobile provider WON’T ALLOW ME TO CONNECT TO DAVIDICKE.COM
At first I thought that website might be down for some reason but the problem persisted…
So what I did was I’ve used VPN and tried if I can connect then … Surprise, surprise …
So what I think is, that David is being censored by mobile phone internet provider (maybe multiple providers) …
I think this is something you guys should look into if you have time … I personally believe that this is concerning…
Please if you can pass this message to someone who can look into it, that will be really good
With regards
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Rose / Icke 7
The Trap - What It Is, How It Works, And How We Escape Its Illusions
It’s been incredibly busy at London Real of late and with so much going on in the world, I have to say, that’s just the way I like it. You see, the goal has always been to try and bring you the most important voices across a broad range of topics and interests, that you won’t find in the mainstream media. And as daunting as things may feel at times, it’s never been more necessary than right now.
I believe everybody has the right to voice their opinion and furthermore, we should all have access to a variety of information and ideas so that we can make informed choices based on sound evidence.
Today’s guest, oftentimes controversially, has become something of a regular on London Real and the Digital Freedom Platform, not least because he’s one of the most fascinating men I’ve had the pleasure of sitting down with, but also because above all else I steadfastly believe that everyone has the right to freedom of speech.
David Icke, according to most references, is a ‘conspiracy theorist’, although this feels a little too vague and dismissive. He has, in fact, dedicated the last 30 years of his life to investigating, researching, questioning and documenting “who and what is really controlling the world”. And I would argue despite his outspoken nature, he is most certainly misunderstood, at least by those who fail to listen.
David’s early life couldn’t be much further away from where he finds himself today. As a talented young sportsman, he signed for Coventry City football club in 1967 as a Goalkeeper. He went on to play for Oxford United, Northampton Town and Hereford United until, at the tender age of 21 found his burgeoning career cut short by arthritis, something that would affect him for many years to come.
From here, he pursued a career in journalism and worked his way up the corporate ladder, blazing a trail into the spotlight as a presenter with the BBC. He dabbled in mainstream politics, as a spokesman for the Green Party, but his life would change forever in 1991 when David experienced what can only be described as a spiritual awakening. The media pounced and criticism, contempt and ridicule soon followed.
His life would be changed irrevocably from that moment forth. Since that time, David has authored over 20 books and spoken in over 25 countries. He has an enormous global following, and his tours take in cities from as far afield as New Zealand and Los Angeles to London and New York and anywhere in between.
His research into prominent political figures, influential family bloodlines, global events, and most recently the covid pandemic has seen him on the receiving end of widespread criticism and ridicule from the mainstream media – a situation he now knows only too well.
In truth, his consistent messaging, incredibly accurate predictions and promotion of peace and unity have resonated with a huge community of people from all corners of the globe who have grown tired of the government lies, cover-ups, censorship and manipulation that have become an increasing presence in our everyday lives.
David is an extremely intelligent and caring individual. He promotes positivity as a response to many of the challenges we face in modern society. And, as those who have been to one of his renowned sold-out arena tours, where he speaks for up to ten hours a day can attest, he is incredibly good company and extremely engaging.
In his latest book ‘The Trap’, David goes deeper down the rabbit hole than ever before to explore and expose what he calls the anti-human agenda that is being orchestrated by a force beyond our reasonable perception, that has been manipulating and controlling world events, in what he describes as a virtual reality computer game. Of course, amidst such claims, David brings some fascinating insights into the nature of humanity, the history of the planet and the social mechanisms at work therein.
“We are living in amazing times, when the manipulation of humanity through the ages which has gone on in the peripheral vision, in the shadows, it’s now come into the public arena where we can see it, and now we can bloody deal with it, and we will!”
David wants all of us to stand up and think for ourselves. To stop taking life for granted, and start questioning who we are and why we’re here? Some may not agree with his message, but, for many, he offers a chink of light in an otherwise dark world.
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David Icke banned from European Union countries for two years – that’s how TERRIFIED THE CULT IS OF HIM. This is the letter we just received from Netherlands immigration… (now translated into English) PLEASE SHARE EVERYWHERE YOU CAN.
View PDF here.
English Translation
Dear Mr Icke,
With this letter I inform you that you have been reported immediately in the Schengen Information System (SIS II) for a period of two years and you are not allowed to enter the Schengen area.
The reason for this alert concerns the following.
On October 31, 2022, the Amsterdam Police sent an information report dated that day from the Regional Information Organization (DRIO) to the IND.
The following conclusions and findings emerge from this report, among other things.
Given the reactions from society, it is not inconceivable that the arrival of David Icke at the ‘Samen voor Nederland’ demonstration will lead to a disturbance of public order. Based on the media attention and the reactions from both sides, his arrival is the center of attention for both supporters and opponents.
In a livestream, the organizer spoke to Icke and stated that “I hope to see you on the sixt of November, no matter how. Digital or live.”. It can be concluded from this that the intention is to let Icke speak in any case. It is unclear whether the counter-protesters would be satisfied if he does not speak physically on Dam Square, but via a live stream. Given the tense relations, there remains a risk of confrontation between the demonstrators and the counter-protesters. As a result, a scenario, such as at the United We Stand Europe demonstration on July 24, 2021, where his digital presence does not lead to tension is not likely. Then little or no attention was paid to his presence in the run-up to, during and after the run.
It is conceivable that his physical presence may give rise to stronger reactions from the counter-demonstration. But that his physical absence could lead to feelings of discontent among the protesters who already have an anti-government sentiment.
The British David Icke has been internationally known for years as a propagator of conspiracy theories. Among other things, he claims that the world is ruled by so-called reptiles, which are a group of powerful aliens that pretend to be humans. According to critics, the reptiles are a metaphor for a (partly Jewish) elite that forms an all-powerful secret world government and is active in all ranks of society. He claims that the Jews financed Hitler and that the Jews are responsible for organizing the 2008 financial crisis and the terrorist attacks on September 11.
The CIDI has responded to Icke’s planned arrival and has announced in the mainstream media that it finds it unacceptable that a stage is being given to Icke. As a result, three counter-demonstrations were registered with the municipality.
The division within society is not only apparent from counter-reactions to the demonstration itself. For example, Icke’s reptile theory has recently been proclaimed several times by Forum for Democracy leader Thierry Baudet. In news reports, Icke is mentioned as ‘the man behind Baudet’s reptile theory’. Source NOS
In addition, conspiracy theories were spread by Baudet during the debate on Budget Day 2022, in which he reasons that Deputy Prime Minister Sigrid Kaag studied at a university where spies are recruited. In response to this, the debate was halted and the cabinet briefly left the House of Representatives. Source AD
These recent developments show that it can be concluded that the arrival of David Icke is not only relevant for public order within the municipality of Amsterdam. Providing Icke with a podium or not will have a greater or lesser effect on the polarization within Dutch society.
In a press release, Samen voor Nederland indicated that it still intends to let Icke speak. The organization indicates that Icke does not deny the Holocaust in an interview with Samen voor Nederland’. In that interview, organizer K. states “I hope to see you on the sixt of November, no matter how. Digital or live. The sixth of November we are going to be in Amsterdam”.
After it became known that David Icke would speak at the ‘Samen voor Nederland’ demonstration, it was visible on social media that left-wing activists wrote to Mayor Halsema, among others, to prevent his arrival. This happens more often, for example when a (extreme) right-wing speaker comes to Amsterdam.
In the past there have also been unannounced counter-demonstrations at ‘Samen voor Nederland’ demonstrations from left-wing activists. These counter-demonstrations received little or no attention in the mainstream media.
Compared to previous and recent editions of the ‘Samen voor Nederland’, there is much more media attention. This is mainly due to the arrival of David Icke as speaker. In addition to the usual activists, CIDI now also spoke out about his arrival. This differs from previous comparable counter-demonstrations.
In the run-up to the demonstration, it is visible online that there is a hardened relationship between the demonstrators and the counter-protesters. The counter-protesters want to disrupt Icke’s speech by means of a noise demonstration. There have been signals from the Amsterdam Jewish police network that the CIDI is receiving negative comments regarding its announcement to voice a counter-noise on 6 November. sympathizers would also have registered at the counter-demonstration to protect the counter-demonstration. Online statements that go further have also been observed. In a podcast with Lale Gül, an Ömer U. stated: Are there people who are a little confused. No sense in life anymore. Do some good for humanity and buy a weapon. Just kidding. I really like him dead, I have no problem saying it.
It is not inconceivable that left-organized persons would like to express their displeasure in a more provocative way. Such as throwing eggs or committing vandalism. However, there are currently no concrete signs for this.
The supporters of ‘Samen voor Nederland’ (Samen voor Nederland) reacted with shock to the hostile messages towards Icke. It is also visible online that there is a response to the counter-demonstration. The organization of ‘Samen voor Nederland’ has indicated online that it has bought whistles to make noise back. The organization stated online that “we’ll see who blows who away”.
This information report shows that you intend to participate physically or digitally in a demonstration in Amsterdam on November 6, 2022 and to address the demonstrators there. The information report also shows that the information about you known to the Police justifies the concern that your nomination in the Dutch context may cause tensions between population groups and thus disrupt public order and public peace.
It should be noted that on the basis of the content of the aforementioned information message it can be judged that there are concrete indications that your arrival in the Netherlands poses a danger to public order and public peace. For this, reference is made to paragraph A2/12 of the Aliens Act Implementation Guidelines (Vc). It is also considered that on the basis of this alert, residence in the Netherlands is not permitted and your free period as a third-country national who does not require a visa will lapse.
It turns out that you have been internationally known for years as a propagator of conspiracy theories. For example, you state that the world is ruled by so-called reptiles, which would be a group of powerful aliens pretending to be humans. According to critics, the reptiles are a metaphor for a (partly Jewish) elite that forms an all-powerful secret world government and is active in all ranks of society.
The 56th Terrorism Threat Assessment Netherlands of 21 April 2022 describes a movement in the Netherlands that is fed by uncompromising conspiracy theories in which prominent persons, administrators and officials are dehumanized and democratic principles are rejected. For example online, through descriptions such as “reptiles”, “blood-drinking pedophiles”, “enemies of freedom” and “defenders of the dictatorship”. This movement states that in the Netherlands there is a elite in power who carry through an oppressive agenda, which is at war and against which resistance is needed. The movement is characterized by deep hostility, fanaticism and fantasies of violent vigilance; the elite would ultimately have to answer to tribunals.
Conspiracy theories, anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial can harm the democratic constitutional state. On the one hand because the legitimacy of those in authority is undermined, on the other because national legislation and international treaties prohibit incitement to hatred.
You are cited in news reports as ‘the man behind Baudet’s reptile theory’ and your intended participation in the demonstration on November 6, 2022 also underlines this. Now that there is a direct connection between your theories and comparing politicians to lizards or other reptiles, prominent persons, administrators and officials are dehumanized and democratic principles are rejected. This undermines democratic principles and the legitimacy of authority. This increases risk in a climate where violence against or threats to politicians is increasing, such as the recent protests by farmers. There is reason to believe that propagating your ideas can incite more violence against politicians if they are no longer seen as people. It threatens the rule of law/democracy and the polity if this would impede politicians from doing their job.
By granting you access to the Netherlands, you are given a platform to publicize your theories in person, which means that it can lead to a disturbance of public order or the commission of violence in the Netherlands, even if you do not explicitly call for this yourself.
In summary, it is considered that the information message from the Amsterdam Police shows that your participation in the demonstration has led to indignation among various organisations, including Jewish organizations and left-wing groups, and that several counter-demonstrations have been announced, whereby it is not inconceivable that your lead to a disturbance of public order. Reference is made to the tense relations between the demonstrators and the counter-protesters and the risk of a confrontation. Your physical presence may trigger stronger responses from the counter-demonstration. In the run-up to the demonstration, a hardened relationship is visible online through your announced participation, including even a call for gun violence against you.
It can be concluded that the information about you known to the Amsterdam Police justifies the concern that your nomination in the Dutch context may cause such great tensions between population groups, or will further escalate existing tensions, that public order and public peace will be compromised. be disrupted.
It has been considered in this case that the interests of public order and public safety to be protected must prevail over your interests, which are served by a (temporary) stay in the Netherlands. The importance the protection of public order and public tranquility takes precedence over the freedom you enjoy to express the freedom of expression.
For these reasons, it has been concluded that your presence here poses a current, real and sufficiently serious threat to a fundamental interest of society.
The information available does not show that the alert constitutes an unjustified infringement on your private or family life as referred to in Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR).
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This lawyer doubts the sustainability of the decision that David Icke is no longer allowed to enter the Netherlands
“You can wonder whether this decision is sufficiently substantiated,” says lawyer Jaap Baar. He was surprised at the letter from the cabinet. “People seem to want to ban him mainly because of what he announces. Public order is mentioned in this, but it seems to be mainly about the content of what he says.”
Not without reason
According to Baar, the cabinet has opted for this motivation because they cannot refuse Icke based on what he says. “It is of course not the case that other people, such as the Dutch, who make similar statements or adhere to theories are massively persecuted here or are deprived of the word.”
“There are very specific grounds for refusing or no longer admitting someone to the Schengen area, and danger to public order is one of them,” adds lawyer Baar.
No concrete disruption
But the question is whether the government can sufficiently demonstrate this danger that Icke may be causing. “There is no legal description of public order, but case law shows that quite strict requirements are set,” says Baar.
“The letter does mention dangers of public order disturbances, but these are all things that could possibly happen. I do not see a concrete disturbance there.”
Freedom of speech
In addition, the government is obliged to ensure that opinions that cause a stir can take place in, for example, demonstrations and manifestations, ‘because freedom of expression is so highly valued’, says Baar.
“Only if you can really say: safety cannot be guaranteed, then that can be a reason to ban or limit a manifestation,” he explains. “But in principle that should not be the content of what is said.”
The organization of the demonstration at which Icke would speak, wants to contest the ruling. Baar thinks summary proceedings with a chance of success. “On the basis of European Union law, it must always be considered whether less drastic measures are sufficient.”
He continues: “And you can then ask yourself whether such a decision in which he is denied access for a period of 2 years can pass that test. Because the question then is: should it be done for 2 years and should it be a general restriction on entry into the Schengen area?”
Sliding scale
Still, the question is whether the organization’s challenge will be successful. “At the moment we can’t find a lawyer who wants to do it,” said Mordechaï Krispijn, one of the organizers of the demonstration. “There are lawyers who have reported to us, but with the message that they are afraid for their reputation.”
An undesirable event, Baar thinks. “We certainly shouldn’t normalize these statements, but we also have to avoid falling into a sliding scale of what is and isn’t allowed in free speech, and who decides that.”
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(11-05-2022, 04:36 PM)awakened53 Wrote: This lawyer doubts the sustainability of the decision that David Icke is no longer allowed to enter the Netherlands If I can figure out that "banning" Icke, would give him the publicity and credibility he so desperately needs, the Dutch government surely could. So they intentionally did this to give him some free publicity!
Icke started a bull$hit "summary procedure" (kort geding) not to win, but simply to attract (more) puclicity. Indeed the corrupt judge didn't decide to temporarily undo Icke's banning.
No details have been released about the normal procedure, but I doubt if they've taken any effort to speed up that procedure. They could ask to skip the first step (bezwaar) and then demand a speedy decision in the trial...
Icke is represented by hot air lawyer Jeroen Pols, who is best known for collaborating with Willem Engel, the most "famous" Dutch anti-lockdown activist.
Pols and Engel started frivolous "civil" procedures against the lockdowns to get publicity, which ultimately succeeded in getting hundreds of thousands of euros in donations: https://www.lawfulpath.com/forum/viewtop...402#p81402
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