[JTTHEGAME]

http://convexearth.org/documentary/conve...ocumentary have a look at this see what you all think but i will say bye to the ball

[awakened53]

http://convexearth.org/documentary/conve...ocumentary have a look at this see what you all think but i will say bye to the ball

I watched it earlier today. I thought it was well produced and throws up some serious questions. I would like to see a complete world map rather than just the rough map of the continents and oceans. But overall the experiments were professional conducted and well carried out. It will be interesting to see how it gets attacked in the coming weeks and what answers mainstream science comes up with to debunk the experiments

[The Apprentice]

After viewing the documentary and going back to a few parts of the film, a few things came to light.

1. Right at the beginning they showed the flat model and at certain key periods of conjecture during the film, seen throughout in the banner bottom left during the film, This immediately brought into the minds eye the Admiral Byrd expedition documentary footage, Also the fact that many of the world leaders went to Antarctica fairly recently.

2. In the film they mentioned that Russian continent was convexed and gaining from the water level and Americas were decreasing, this means and as we know that many of these areas of the Americas would be under water as they have been before.

3. Simply look at what is happening around the globe and where the current empires are surounding with their military, these are the very places where good land is extant and will be a safer haven if the sea levels were about to rise.

4. I think the elite know what is likely to happen and even the medieval circumnavigators and explorers like Bacon have already seen what is there.

I said about a year ago on the flat earth thread on the Icke forum that the science would be much different if they used laser/s to find the supposed levels, my idea back then was a laser at the Boneville flats, but! I would make the experiment even more accurate and mount several lasers all with different colours to do the experiments, all fixed in position and use several different parties not known to each other, to record different sequences of laser colours and then it would be more positive an outcome.

One attribute they never included was the wobble of a possible flat body, IE, the flat surface having a slowly tilting platform, of .78 arc seconds in every 72 years, if you understand how precession works then you will see where I am coming from.

The elite have already done these kinds of experiments.

For those interested in finding out more, study what is a light cone and how light and sound interact in similar ways, like the tapered bore of a musical instrument and the standing wave form from a fixed point along that taper, this idea was given to me from a late freind and genious who was also schooled alongside the Rothschilds.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_cone

[awakened53]

Admiral Byrd spoke of the green land beyond the pole that was the size of America which was rich in coal and minerals but after that it was never spoken again in the media. Byrd was an intelligent well educated man and seems very credible. I suppose he has told or warned to stop talking about it as that is a subject that they certainly did not want out in the open.

[The Apprentice]

Admiral Byrd spoke of the green land beyond the pole that was the size of America which was rich in coal and minerals but after that it was never spoken again in the media. Byrd was an intelligent well educated man and seems very credible. I suppose he has told or warned to stop talking about it as that is a subject that they certainly did not want out in the open.

It could be a ploy and an extention of the Francis Bacon New Atlantis model which he took from older writings, but what caught my attention was the part in the film where it said Russia was a convexed land mass and America was convcaved, which must mean more easily covered by water if it rose.

Here we have yet another myth but also factual story in the making, however, if you take what is going on today, one continent is at full capacity and one isn't, IE Russia is yet to see its full potential, and that potential might be realised if the climate got a lot warmer and the land that is now currently under permafrost and cruel winters thawed out.

We do know that Russia does have some of the very best farm land and like North America, and Russia also supplies a huge population that cannot feed itself in the lower hemisphere, so I think this is something in the pipeline. Russia has also been quashed by Western bussiness intersts for the last 150 years but now beginning to climb out of its global cabalistic depression and TPTSB are getting itchy trigger fingers.


We know that the climate was much warmer and much of Eastern Europe/North Sea was above water at one time, so there is another novel or two to be made here I think.

[Steve]

The arguments and evidence put forward in this plausible video in support of a flat/convex earth is compelling, and it certainly warrants further investigation and experimentation in mainstream science. However, probably what you will get from them is complete rejection and vilification - we will have to see.

Here’s podcast from March 14, 2018 with Mark Sargent, who also believes the Earth is flat.

http://theunexplained.tv/paranormal-podc...flat-earth


Podcast notes

5 min    - introduction to Mark Sergeant, tech background in software, gaming.
8 min    - JFK film was the turning point, got him into research, mysteries & unexplained.
10 min  - began studying flat earth theory in 2014.
11 min  - the moon landing, suspicions.
12 min  - the space race and US / Russia rivalry
15 min  - they cannot let the general population know the truth, scientific vs religious impact.
17 min  - any new findings would cause the different branches of sciences having to be rebuilt.
18 min  - the earth is a flat dome structure, and we’re in a Truman show reality.
19 min  - the US and Russia and operation Deepfreeze in 1956. 
20 min  - in 1928, Admiral Richard E  Byrd sent on Antarctica mission, Nazi Germany involvement. 
21 min  - after WW2, operation High Jump and more missions undertaken. In 1954, Byrd goes on Longjeans 
21 min  - Chronoscope TV Show discussing his next mission - operation Deepfreeze 1955/56.
22 min  - the outer marker/barrier found by Byrd, and the ice wall is just the beginning.
23 min  - it slopes up 14,000 feet at the barrier, and there’s no life beyond it.
24 min  - simulation of a globe type system, and flights can’t go over the South Pole, no GPS.
25 min  - why are 32 Satellites unable to track the South Pole’s latitude and longitude?
26 min  - keeping the secret, techniques used-NASA formed in 1958, atomic weapons testing.
27 min  - weapon testing’s real motive was to map out earth and fabricate space travel.
28 min  - look at rocket launch trajectory time lapse from 1958-62, in 1959 Van Allan radiation 
29 min  - belts announced-lethal warning, why did everyone inexplicably leave Antarctica?
30 min  - the treaty is ‘a need to know’ conspiracy designed to hide the truth.
31 min  - a treaty review is not until 2041, why is the perimeter fence changing?
32 min  - why is Antarctica not on the UN flag?It’s owned by no one, the ice cap, ozone layer hole. 
33 min  - we’re in a pressurised enclosed system, the burning of fossil fuel within the dome.
34 min  - the car / heater analogy, and military weather manipulation.
35 min  - global warming is a conditioning term.
36 min  - eventually a genuine picture from space will be required.
37 min  - NASA earth picture is a fake, and the lies are repeated, last Apollo 17 mission earth pic.
38 min  - NASA waited 43 years until 2015 for a subsequent image of earth, Elon Musc  
39 min  - reinforcing the concept of space on the cheap.
40 min  - NASA is reinforcing the false globe perception. 
41 min  - faking the Mars mission, the Capricorn One film.
42 min  - the Mars mission is all talk, similar to the hydrogen cell car fuel hype.
43 min  - even if the Mars mission is real, it’s too far away from earth and a one way ticket.
44 min  - the cinema planetarium effect is the same as the huge earth planetarium effect - fake.
45 min  - what happens if we fly due south continually, what would happen?
46 min  - bypass GPS, use visual cues, but would ultimately get stopped by defence forces.
47 min  - Apollo astronauts know everything is fake, but are controlled by the military. 
48 min  - disclosure agreements have been signed to cover up the hoax.
49 min  - other people and a someone from NASA have come forward to admit they’re lying.
50 min  - only 500 astronauts have been in space, and are controlled/forced to keep quiet.
51 min  - lies keep coming, everything faked - satellites. 
52 min  - why the Atmospheric and Transportation Safety Bureau want extensive rocket details. 
53 min  - fabricating the data, disclosure and suppression.
54 min  - the don’t send anyone to the moon decision. 
55 min  - the coriolis effect, water direction/plug hole test in northern/southern hemispheres
57 min  - is it part of the conspiracy? 
58 min  - as a simulation is made bigger, it becomes easier to fake.
59 min  - sniper shots, artillery, missile and torpedo fire never take account of the coriolis effect.
60 min  - the apparent curvature of the earth viewed from the high altitude of a plane.
61 min  - pilots belief that the earth is flat, the instrumentation.
62 min  - the flat earth theory is the ultimate open minded test for people.
63 min  - the constellation variation according to ones position on earth are projection simulations.
64 min  - projections on sky are done according to regions on the earth in simulated environment. 
65 min  - lunar eclipses show a curvature - but it’s a further planetarium effect.
66 min  - anything is possible with projection effects, the blackout zone and width difference.
67 min  - the earth in front of the sun eclipse should give a blackout zone.
68 min  - the length of the shadow of sticks test - proves curvature?
69 min  - but also works the same if the sun is far closer to the earth.
70 min  - we are poor at judging shapes to distances, zooming into the moon, new camera HD 
71 min  - technology shows that the boat in the distant horizon can now be seen, and it hasn’t    
71 min - disappeared.
72 min  - the reason why scientists are rubbishing the flat earth theory.
74 min  - social media is helping to support the flat earth theory.
75 min  - the flat earth theory is gaining momentum, and how will it change the world.
76 min  - website details.

[JTTHEGAME]

http://convexearth.org/documentary/conve...ocumentary have a look at this see what you all think but i will say bye to the ball

I watched it earlier today. I thought it was well produced and throws up some serious questions. I would like to see a complete world map rather than just the rough map of the continents and oceans. But overall the experiments were professional conducted and well carried out. It will be interesting to see how it gets attacked in the coming weeks and what answers mainstream science comes up with to debunk the experiments

it will be interesting to see how the main stream come back at it you are right there but the thing to remember when they do is how far they are off by there own admission  have a listen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olo_z6yZjbg

[Steve]

Why They Have Shown Us The World Map Incorrectly for the Last 450 Years and What it Actually Should Look Like -


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9 Ways Your Perception of the World Map Has Been Totally Wrong Your Whole Life
April 29, 2017 by Justin Andress

Day in and day out, most people don’t invest a lot of time thinking about how outdated cartography really is. When you hear that the map on which all our perceptions of the world are based on a technique finalized in 1569, it might not sound too concerning. After all, how hard can it be to translate real world measurements to a piece of paper. All you really need is time, patience, and a big enough ruler, right? As it happens, the science and art of cartography has seen some monumental changes in the last 450 years — and the result is that everything you thought you knew about the world’s map is probably wrong. Here’s why.

The Map You Know

At the moment, the world’s most widely accepted means of cartography — or map-making — is a method established by Flemish geographer Gerardus Mercator at the end of the fourteenth century. It was designed not for accuracy, but to help ship’s captains get around the world safely. So, it was useful when a sail was your best means of getting from point ‘A’ to point ‘B,’ but these days it’s a little bit outdated.

2. Flattening the Globe

People have known that Mercator’s globe is distorted for some time. In fact, in 1974, Dr. Arno Peters concocted the “equal-area map” which is designed to accurately scale the land. However, it took a Tokyo architect named Hajime Narukawa to actually build the map itself. Over the course of several years, Narukawa used math-type-stuff to “flatten” the Earth, creating the most accurate map the world has ever known. Here are the specific problems Narukawa’s map addresses.

3. Why Is the Narukawa Map Such a Big Deal?

Even if your life isn’t fundamentally changed by learning that Greenland is kind of a runty little island, Narukawa’s map still exposes a fundamental truth about the way knowledge is disseminated throughout the world. When Mercator was drafting his first “accurate” maps in the 1560s, he did so with a firm belief that Europe and its people were the center of the Universe. So, whether consciously or unconsciously, he created a map that put his people smack dab in the middle of the action. As a result, Mercator’s Map reflects a time in history, it doesn’t reflect the actual measurements of the world in which we live. It’s entirely possible that the Mercator projections have had an immeasurable impact on the way the world works, whether by making Americans feel like their place in the world is much larger than it actually is or by unconsciously shunting the majority of the world’s people off to the sides of the geographical table. These decisions have implications on how people think, whether you want to admit it or not. As you look through these geographical mistakes, just consider the political ramifications that may or may not have accompanied each of Mercator’s distortions.

4. Until Now, Africa Has Been Criminally Misrepresented

In the Mercator projection, Africa is pictured as much smaller than it actually is. In fact, you might be forgiven for thinking that North America is about as big as Africa. You’d be wrong. The United States, China, and India could fit snugly into Africa with room to spare. The Cradle of Life represents a much larger portion of the world’s land mass than most Americans are led to believe.

5. India Is Way Bigger Than You Thought

Ever looked at a map and wondered how more than a billion people (that’s three time the population of the United States) can fit into an area that — on a Mercator projection — looks like it’s about the size of Texas? Well, that’s because India is actually three times larger than the Scandinavian countries. It’s massive.

6. Greenland Is Much Smaller Than It Looks

Most people believe that Greenland is some massive stretch of frozen land stretching toward the Arctic Circle. That isn’t the case at all. Once more, let’s compare it to Africa. The Mercator numbers show Greenland as a huge nation comparable in size to Africa. In fact, Greenland is about one-tenth the size of Africa. It’s smaller than the Republic of Congo.

7. Alaska Is Tiny, Too

The United States likes to talk about how vast the wilderness of Alaska is. It’s the biggest state in the Union. It’s twice the size of Texas. It’s larger than most of the Midwest. But it’s not that big. In fact, Mexico is actually larger than Alaska in terms of land area.

8. The World As You Know It Is Upside-Down

Here’s another fun secret about Mercator and his map-making buds: they were kind of narcissistic. See, from an interstellar perspective, the landmass on Earth looks upside down when compared to Mercator projections. As a result, Africa, not Europe, is very much at the top-center of the accurate map.

9. Antarctica Isn’t That Big

Most Mercator-influenced maps spread Antarctica along the bottom of the page, making it look like a vast wintery landscape. In fact, Africa is more than twice the size of Antarctica. Even China is very nearly the size of the southernmost continent.

[Steve]

Selfie taken on top of Mount Everest -

https://www.facebook.com/officialmbf/pho...81/?type=3

[Steve]

Flightradar24 app

Today I've been tracking my eldest daughter's flight from London, Heathrow to Los Angeles, and I thought it would be a good idea to view the '3D' cockpit camera (pilots view) of this particular flight. Interestingly, at about 36,000 feet and above (approx 7 miles), the horizon definitely shows a slight curvature, usually over land. However, over the sea it looks very flat!

What do other members think?