[Splodge]

Can you imagine a world without money? I don't mean reverting to a crypto currency or a barter system,  that is still money,  I mean no money what so ever. What would the world be like?  What would you do? What would work be like?

[Steve]

Can you imagine a world without money? I don't mean reverting to a crypto currency or a barter system,  that is still money,  I mean no money what so ever. What would the world be like?  What would you do? What would work be like?

What about this model/blueprint?

http://www.theunexplained.tv/media/theun...ed-334.mp3

https://www.michaeltellinger.com/

[freelotus]

i think people would be drawn to their proper callings in life and everything would be a lot less stressful. if no one 'had to work' or pay for anything, it'd drive a stake in the heart of greed.

[EvadingGrid]

Rapidly it would descend into the Dark Ages.... again.

[Splodge]

Rapidly it would descend into the Dark Ages.... again.

Why?

[The Apprentice]

Can you imagine a world without money? I don't mean reverting to a crypto currency or a barter system,  that is still money,  I mean no money what so ever. What would the world be like?  What would you do? What would work be like?

Steve, a world without money is a word witout skills, now think carefully about that statement, and then look at what we exchange our physical labour for, and you will see that those with limited skills are also those without money and almost totally dependant on a state who really wants to look after you, but in order of doing that you must have no real saving and no real life skills to fill in the gaps where the needed basic commodities are concerned.

Barter is absolutely not money, it is a money free exchange system between independant bodies for the betterment of those individuals, so this leads us right back to where our Labour is going, and those who Govern us by default also don't normally have any real life skills, but always rely upon those without for to be seen to be helping or limiting which is the case here.

Has one ever heard the phrase, teach a man to fish before, well this is what we might be doing instead of trying to collect or work anothers gain, IE, our loss the governments gain, while in the interim nothing is produced or encouraged to make a break away from a system on steroids that are basically a placebo.

[Steve]

UBUNTU Contributionism – A world free of money (Michael Tellinger)

Also, will not virtually all skilled jobs ultimately be replaced by robots and AI?

Only the creative skills/arts might survive.

It is no easy task in defining skill. What about the skill of the mother/parents/single parent looking after and bringing up their families. Surely this has to be one of the most important skills in life.

[The Apprentice]

UBUNTU Contributionism – A world free of money (Michael Tellinger)

Also, will not virtually all skilled jobs ultimately be replaced by robots and AI?

Only the creative skills/arts might survive.

It is no easy task in defining skill. What about the skill of the mother/parents/single parent looking after and bringing up their families. Surely this has to be one of the most important skills in life.

I agree, there are many different skills within the family unit model and why the system has all but destroyed it, what the system has done to dehumanize us, we as adults can revert and put it right, but the elites system does not want us to know, and what Lennin once said, that there is a thousand different ways we could travel but we  must never be told so.

I have no aversion to robots, infact I use the latest technology to design my ideas on the screen so I don't have to make as many prototypes and waste my own energy and materials, tech and robotics are of great benefit to all that use it for the betterment and sustainablity or their most valuable time, which converts into huge savings once one perfects the tech for good and eases of our toil which was the normal before technology.

There are many skills which robots cannot replace and that is problem solving, only the human mindset can do this in real time, a robot will continue to make the same mistakes and build in the same faults until a human being reprogrames it.

Skills is everyones single most valuable commodity and as soon as we regain these ways and share them with those who are truly worthy we will continue to fall by the wayside, and one put there for us, our leaders are always devoid of skills that matter and should have at least one real life skill and understand how we got here in the first place, these people may be clever propagandists but are the true sheeple amongst us.

In the beginning amongst tribal and higher civilizations, food and survival skills have been the main stay of our living philosophies that formed and developed the human character. Long before the industrial and information ages arrived, we held a unified perspective of life born of our regular interactions with nature the elements and each other.

We learned from all these interactions with the utmost of care; since we knew nature both as, our source, Our partner in living, and the perpetual force that would cater to our needs, and together with the life enabling energy of our sun, we endured and ensured the future of our offspring.

We did not perceive ourselves as something other than nature, “We were nature” we knew that nature was Humanity turned inside out, and humanity was nature turned outside in; when we referred to our Individual characters of “My own nature” we knew this to be the literal truth.

Living closely with nature gave us the opportunity to observe, experience and recognize many qualities within ourselves, qualities that corresponded with the growth processes and qualities of the plants and animals; Stirred in the pots of trial and error, and heated by the fires of intuition and ancestral wisdom, our observations also revealed to us the many possibilities recorded in the plant and animal kingdoms, and how these attributes corresponded to our own lives, and it was our observations of nature herself that helped us to make the transition from hunter gatherer to farmer and today technological minds who are using the tech to control us instead of helping us.

The Ubuntu ststem works up until a point and like any other cooperative it fails once the free energy towards the cause begins to use up more energy than those giving, IE, eventually it can no longer feed itself. Michael has has so many set backs by people just upping sticks and gone walkabout, this is part of human nature, who normally get bored after about 3 months, my own trails in teaching and sharing skills learned this fact, basically once the people doing the labour realized that the model is no longer feeding their own needs it ends.

[Splodge]

Money, fear and greed are all the same. Fear and greed are the programed response to money, if you have none, fear of starvation, debt, homelessness. If you have loads of money, then it is fear of losing it. If you break it down to bartering your skills you are still bringing fear into the equation, and once fear enters, then that gives a green light for people to control other. We are so heavily programed we find it almost impossible to imagine a world without our prison walls, in fact we fear not having a monetary system as people are too evil and need to be controlled. If we cannot a least imagine a world without money we are destined to remain in our prison.

[The Apprentice]

Money,  fear and greed are all the same. Fear and greed are the programed response to money, if you have none,  fear of starvation,  debt,  homelessness.  If you have loads of money, then it is fear of losing it. If you break it down to bartering your skills you are still bringing fear into the equation, and once fear enters,  then that gives a green light for people to control other.  We are so heavily programed we find it almost impossible to imagine a world without our prison walls,  in fact we fear not having a monetary system as people are too evil and need to be controlled. If we cannot a least imagine a world without money we are destined to remain in our prison.

Here we have used skills that I have show so far mainly to gain many of the things we need, it takes time to gather one's composure but it definately works for the creator if you stick at it, then any fears or desires one has are alleviated, because the individual then knows what it takes to create the quality or not so quality items to see them through, of course there are those who will want the goods but not want to do an even exchange for them, these people are called bankers who give false credits in our name in the form of contracts but have neither the materials or the skills to fend for themselves.

Having been a contributor to several forums already one common theme or lack of stands out and that is the majority are as you say so completely programmed that they are unable to think, act or create the vitality and items needed for true survival for themselves, the skills subject seems to be a taboo subject, that is because they have become slaves to another slave system that is falsely propping them up in order that they have the very basics, there is no other way of explaining this most simple of paradigms.

Those with unfathomable wealth simply could not have gained such numbers on their own and know they have gained it unsportingly and enslaved others in order of getting it, greed does not enter these peoples minds but dishonesty runs amuck the longer they get away with it, so we have then become truly unworthy of that wealth and will at any cost spend much of it to keep it from those who created it for them in the first place, this is not fear it is a false concept that we call fear but is actually many forms of deciet and dissregard for their fellow creators.

Here we are multi tallented and over a thirty year period have created on a budget many things that we simply could not afford if we went shopping today, as time goes on we will share with all interested how to do similar, it is a fool proof way to take a step back and away from the conditioning that our parents went through life not knowing how they could get the best using as little money as possible, and once armed with the knowledge and skills they can be taken on lifes journey no matter where the person and their hands may settle.

Parenting skills are also an important subject, for those who decide to breed that is, with children in tow the mother will have much stronger feelings for protecting her young, simply observe nature and see a mother bear with cubs, normally she would steer clear of humans, but when she has cubs in tow she is going to confront or even kill you, these skills have been bread out of humanity by many different means by the powers that should not be and we have been dragged along by guile, deceit and a kind of magic in order of keeping our natural rthymns in check, all we would need is one generational break from the control grid and those instincts would return in earnest.

So, where would we advise from here on in, the answer is, in every opposite direction that TPTSB have designed for us to travel, work together and re-skill now/today whilst there are still plenty around who are capable of sharing the skills, that I know would set so many free in so many ways, and do it for free if possible, if not free, for material costs only, to make the highest quality and practical products instead of following the fashion frenzy that we are all ticed into buying, the looks of the products are irrelevant to true survival, but will be different from others that happen along, But we have to do it as of tomorrow.

And remember time is also a false concept, so those who say they do not have the time are not thinking stright as we were designed to, the time is now, only we can change they way we have been fooled BTPTSB and their false money that they use to steal away our true labour and value away from the creators.