03-22-2018, 07:42 AM
(This post was last modified: 03-22-2018, 07:51 AM by freelotus.
Edit Reason: forgot one of my points
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well, i don't watch them so can't agree or disagree on their relative merits. (it's a big pay discrepancy though, isn't it?)
however, i do think it's misguided to default to trying to frame things as 'sure xyz group has been discriminated against, in the past, but not now'. we're not in a post -ism world. people/groups are still facing the same problems. sometimes to a lesser degree or less often. sometimes it takes more subtle forms. sometimes it's same as it ever was.
so, it could be happening in this case. it's not impossible. but i don't know, personally.
also, i was going to start a thread about this, but i'll just post it here:
i hate the phrase 'virtue signalling'! i think it crossed that line (a while ago) from being a clever shorthand for something that does happen, that we can shake our heads and laugh at, to being used as a cudgel to shame people who show empathy for others - including ourselves. it's another tactic to keep you from expressing yourself. the kind parts of yourself, that remember others instead of being me me me 24/7. i think people should rebel against that type of (self)censorship, along with the other forms.
as to whether she was doing it or not though, again i have to defer to you, richie, cos i don't pay her any attention. lol
your point about working harder and being better is a good one though. in fact, i heard this a lot growing up: women have to be twice as good to earn the rewards a man would. same for people of colour : white people. (is unfair though, isn't it? to have that be common knowledge, i mean.)
but yes, everyone should try their best before complaining.
however, i do think it's misguided to default to trying to frame things as 'sure xyz group has been discriminated against, in the past, but not now'. we're not in a post -ism world. people/groups are still facing the same problems. sometimes to a lesser degree or less often. sometimes it takes more subtle forms. sometimes it's same as it ever was.
so, it could be happening in this case. it's not impossible. but i don't know, personally.
also, i was going to start a thread about this, but i'll just post it here:
i hate the phrase 'virtue signalling'! i think it crossed that line (a while ago) from being a clever shorthand for something that does happen, that we can shake our heads and laugh at, to being used as a cudgel to shame people who show empathy for others - including ourselves. it's another tactic to keep you from expressing yourself. the kind parts of yourself, that remember others instead of being me me me 24/7. i think people should rebel against that type of (self)censorship, along with the other forms.
as to whether she was doing it or not though, again i have to defer to you, richie, cos i don't pay her any attention. lol
your point about working harder and being better is a good one though. in fact, i heard this a lot growing up: women have to be twice as good to earn the rewards a man would. same for people of colour : white people. (is unfair though, isn't it? to have that be common knowledge, i mean.)
but yes, everyone should try their best before complaining.