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Moon rocks and lunar mirrors

The NASA claims that the rocks they took back from the moon and mirrors they placed there is evidence that astronuts actually walked one the moon is possibly even more ridiculous than those poor quality videos with “amazing” special effects...


According to the NASA propaganda, the hundreds of pounds of “moon rocks” brought back are solid evidence that astronauts collected these on the moon.
Supposedly geologists worldwide have confirmed that these rocks were found on the moon. If they examined only a couple of grams, why would we believe that the other hundreds of pounds are of the same material?
They couldn’t verify that these were from the moon by comparing it to the “real thing”, but instead verified if these rocks are from the moon by comparing them to what the official theory is. It would be very surprising if the common consensus, controlled by the same powers that control NASA, wouldn’t confirm that these rocks are from the moon!

As for the story that these “moon rocks” couldn’t have been collected on earth…
More than 330 meteorites similar to the supposed “moon rocks” have been found on earth.


According to NASA these “lunar meteorites” actually originate from the moon.
They explain that these “lunar meteorites” on earth, with that meteoroids strike the Moon every day (fortunately none of the astronauts in their magical space suits were hit...) that caused some “moon rocks” reach lunar escape velocity of 2.38 km/s (more than 8500 km/h!): http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites.htm


I was surprised to learn that the “moon rocks” sold by NASA for “extraordinary evidence” of the “moon landings” were filled with oxygen: https://www.sciencenews.org/article/50-y...moon-rocks


The differences in supposed moon rocks and rocks found on our earth are only slight. They’re so very slight that one could argue that the supposed moon rocks were never found on the moon but found right here on earth...

In January 2019, it was reported that Jeremy Bellucci analysed a rock that the Apollo 14 astronauts in 1971 brought back from the moon. Bellucci and his team found out that it´s highly unlikely that the rock was indeed formed on the moon, but that it makes perfect sense that it instead formed on Earth.
What makes this discovery even more amazing, is that it has been dated older, 4.011 billion years old, than any rock that has ever been found and analysed on earth...

Even if it would be possible for a rock on earth to be ejected from the earth with an escape velocity of 40,270 km/h (!) and landing on the moon, which is even more difficult to believe than rocks reaching an escape velocity of 8500 km/h from the moon, it would still seem impossible, statistically speaking, that an earth rock found on the moon would be older than any rock discovered on earth: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/scien...4-zircons/
(archived here: http://web.archive.org/web/2019020506030...4-zircons/)


This isn´t the first time that it was discovered that a supposed moon rock, was actually an earth rock...

In August 2009, it was found out that a moon rock given to former Dutch prime minister Willem Drees by the Apollo 11 astronauts in 1969 was nothing more than petrified wood.
After Drees died in 1988, the rock was donated to the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam and put on display: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science...-fake.html


According to Ralph Rene:

I have been told that Werner Von Braun retrieved two cases of rocks using a U.S. Navy ship in the Antarctic years before the Apollo missions. The shipping labels on the cases said "NASA, Houston, Texas".
(...)
Or they could have used rock samples picked up in Antarctica during the intensive exploration of that continent during the International Geophysical Year in 1957, when that continent was extensively explored. Werner Von Braun had Antarctic rocks shipped to NASA. Any strange rock would do if there were no fossils in it. These rocks could be slowly doled out, but only to those geologists who could be counted on to agree with anything the government said. Much of academia can be relied on to do just that!
Strangely enough, rocks were later found in Antarctica that closely resemble "Moon rocks". In point of fact, some geologists are now positive that these rocks were blasted from the Moon to Earth during immense meteoric impacts.

Previous quote from Ralph Rene - "NASA Mooned America" (1994): https://ia800406.us.archive.org/31/items...37%20p.pdf

During the summer of 1966–67, Von Braun and a small group of other top NASA managers took a “field trip” to Antarctica.



I think that the NASA stories on the mirrors on the moon to reflect laser light coming from earth to convince us that their astronauts walked on the moon (and the Soviets landed unmanned rockets), is even more ridiculous than the rest of the hoax...
According to the state propaganda, Apollo 11, 14 and 15 and 2 Soviet Lunokhod missions placed retroreflectors on the moon.

Let’s see if I can come up with an “easy” experiment to compare this to.
Imagine 2 high mountains (on earth) some 100 km apart.
On mountain 1; a team fires a laser at a 1 cubic centimetre large mirror that is riding on a train on mountain 2 (at a distance of 100 km).
The team on mountain 1 then measures the time it took for the laser light to reflect back, to determine the distance to the mirror.

Now from this “simple” experiment to the moon at a distance of 384.400 km, and a retroreflector of some 0.5 meters square.
That would be so difficult that I would call it impossible (not even talking about that they couldn’t test it, but claim success just the same).

The first problem is actually hitting the retroreflector, even without the laser light diverging by earth’s atmosphere (both going out and coming in).
If you send a laser light the beam is about 6.5 kilometres (4.0 miles) wide at the moon (according to the official story), when it returns, why would you believe that the light was reflected by the reflector?
According to the official propaganda only one out of 10^17 photons “aimed” at the reflector, is received back on Earth, even under good conditions. It seems probable that the moon surface would reflect more of the laser light than the 0.5 square meter mirror…
They couldn’t even verify that the beam is 6.5 kilometres wide at the moon…

Another problem is getting the retroreflector aligned precisely so it reflects to the exact location on earth…
NASA has made up the following interesting explanation that the retroreflectors (corner-cube prisms) return any light exactly back in the direction from which it came: https://tmurphy.physics.ucsd.edu/apollo/lrrr.html


The problem here is that in the real world “exact” doesn’t exist and there would be an inaccuracy in the direction, making it impossible to detect the light that comes back from the moon (768.800 kilometres round trip).
I haven’t found information on the inaccuracy of the retroreflectors placed on the moon almost 50 years ago. I’ve seen a couple of internet pages about current retroreflectors with an accuracy of 3 arc seconds: https://www.thorlabs.de/newgrouppage9.cf...oup_id=145


NASA supposedly uses these reflectors to more accurately determine the distance to the moon.
Because the moon moves, the NASA “scientists” should have to know the exact distance to the moon, which is of course also inaccurate. Maybe after they could accurately determine its distance (using the reflectors) they could actually perform this experiment successfully...

What about dust on the reflectors?
I’ll not even try to figure out how gravity affects the laser light...

For some reason, in 2009 the wonderful moon mirror project was scrapped: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2...er-funding