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The not tested descend/ascend
I repeatedly call lack of testing an important argument against the Apollo moon landings. I think this is a good time to explain a little on “testing”...
I guess that testing of planes is more similar to software testing than the testing that should be done in “rocket science”, but the links I found to come up with a “test strategy” is relevant in this context (at the very least it explains how I look at it).
While landing on the moon is associated with an extremely high risk. For which no appropriate, feasible “testing strategy” could be designed, making a handful of movies on “moon landings” with some special effects wouldn’t be a risk.
With the media under complete control there is no chance that the fraud would ever be exposed (is there?).
In (software) testing deciding what to test is decided based on the (estimated) risk.
Risk is assessed by a team of “stakeholders” and based on multiplying (maybe there are better formulas…):
Probability * Severity
Probability is the chance an error would occur after implementation of the software. This is mostly decided on the complexity and the frequency functionality is used.
Severity is the damage a failure would cause. In software development arguably the worst that could happen is that an error brings the whole system down: http://www.methodsandtools.com/archive/a....php?id=31
When I relate this to the testing for the Apollo moon landings, the risk is enormous, which means I expect that basically every small detail of the moon landings would be tested with hundreds of test cases.
The complexity of a moon landing is especially large as never before people landed on the moon. There are even many factors about landing on the moon (and the trip) that were (are) simply unknown.
Even more damaging for the credibility of this “event” is that not even the tests that could have been performed (if a moon landing is feasible) on earth were done.
While the descend and ascend couldn’t be tested in vacuum at all, they could have tested with something like a light version of the Lunar Module:
Landing a “lunar module” after a starting speed of 6000 km/h (4 times the top speed of an F-16).
Lifting off a lunar module to reach a speed of 6000 km/h…
In my opinion, the most important problem to overcome in (real) Apollo moon landings, is the problem of gravity without an atmosphere (vacuum).
1) It would be very difficult to land on the moon (without smashing), impossible as they couldn’t test this.
2) Lift-off from the moon could be even more impossible (and again couldn’t be tested).
3) The probe would have to overcome the gravity until it would reach the rocket. Reportedly the rocket was still circling around the moon, so it would also be difficult to connect with the rocket.
This amazing feat never once went wrong: every astronaut in the 6 missions to reach the moon… got safely back to earth.
They also had to overcome the gravitation from the moon (besides the starting speed)...
See how the Lunar Module descends.
The following shows how the Lunar Module had to turn in the last phase of the descend.
Not only was it important to have a low vertical speed when landing. It couldn’t have any horizontal speed at landing (unlike landings on earth that often use wheels).
The following video shows the descend/ascend “testing” of the Lunar Module (engine) done on earth, with the Lunar Landing Research Vehicle (LLRV, that looks very similar to a modern day drone). They also did flights with LLTVs...
At 12:50 you can see the lift off (notice the acceleration) and also notice the wheels (for the record, it isn´t claimed that the lunar module had wheels)!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2ejvFX7Q20
I’ve been thinking about some “comparable” experiment to the landing on the moon of the lunar module that could be done on earth.
An ice buggy, with no steer or anything to keep it in a certain direction (like sharp irons) or brakes. It has an incredible powerful motor (like the engine of an F-16). The engine is “throttleable” but it can’t be turned in any direction for steering.
Now this ice buggy is going with a speed of 6000 km/h over an ice lake, there is no wind and the shore of the lake is at 10 km. The ice buggy has to use its powerful engine to stop before it crashes on the shore. Please don’t try this yourself!
According to NASA, the lander had 2 large rockets, one for the descent and another for return to the Central Module (circling around the moon at 6000 km/h), and 16 “control engines” with a small thrust.
The lunar module descent engine was the biggest challenge for the Apollo missions. Never before had a throttleable engine been designed for manned spacecraft. The engine also was gimballed so that it could “shoot out” its thrust in the wanted direction.
Because the fuel was so corrosive, the engine couldn’t be tested before launch.
There was also the huge problem of cooling the combustion chamber for which supposedly radiation cooling was used (sounds very science fiction!): https://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/Histo...ch6-5.html
The Lunar Module "started" the descend at 102:33:05.01; Altitude: 10.3 km; speed 6106 km/h.
The Lunar Module landed at 102:45:41.40.
In 12 1/2 minutes it supposedly went from a speed of 6106 km/h to (almost) 0; most of the speed was only lost in the final stages of the descend: https://history.nasa.gov/SP-4029/Apollo_..._Phase.htm
Following is an interesting interview with some important NASA actors.
How did they prevent the rocket ship from burning up in the sun light?
Quote:Chris Kraft, director of flight operations, Mission Control: On the way to the moon, you might say, "Well, that could be a pretty boring time." But that's not true. There were times when you had to do things with the fuel cells, when you had to get rid of the water in the system. You're making sure the thermal operation of the spacecraft is being done well. On Apollo it was called barbecue mode.
Hugh Blair-Smith, software engineer for the Apollo guidance computer, MIT Instrumentation Laboratory: For the long three days from the Earth to the moon they had to keep the spacecraft rotating just like a pig on a spit so the sun wouldn't be concentrated on any one side.
The Lunar Module (engine) couldn’t be tested at all in vacuum. They didn’t even perform the tests that could have been done. The on-board computer couldn’t even handle the tasks it had to do.
Quote:Steve Bales, guidance officer (GUIDO), White Team, Mission Control: When we came in that morning, the lunar module was dead. We had to power it up, get the thing aligned and checked out. In the simulations, that's where we'd always had the biggest difficulty, really. We had never completed without some major problem--and I don't know if we ever completed successfully in training--what we called a power-up and initialization of everything, and then gone ahead and done a landing.
Joe Gavin, director, Lunar Module Program, Grumman Aerospace Corporation: The whole thing was tense, because we were basically aircraft designers. In the aircraft business you always flight tested something before you delivered it. In the case of the lunar module, you couldn't flight test it. Every launch was a brand-new vehicle.
Doug Ward, NASA public affairs officer: The computer was simply saying, "Hey, I've got more than I can handle, but I'm gonna do the important things, so don't worry about it."
Neil Armstrong: The powered descent was the most challenging segment of the flight. The systems were heavily loaded, the margins were slim, and this would be the first time that the entire descent strategy would be fully tested. A decade earlier, while I was flying in the X-15 program, we learned, surprisingly, that all the pilots, while flying the X-15, had heart rates between 145 and 185. It reflected the mental intensity appropriate for a challenging situation. The Apollo data seemed to correlate well with our prior experience.
Joe Gavin, director, Lunar Module Program, Grumman Aerospace: The lunar module had the first really throttle-able descent engine. When it first fired, it had to operate at about 10,000 pounds of thrust. But as they approached the lunar surface, the vehicle became much lighter, having burned up a lot of fuel, and they had to get the thrust down to maybe 2000 pounds. So it was quite a development to get a rocket engine that would not only do this, but would operate smoothly in either range.
Gavin: In an airplane you usually have, oh, at least an hour's extra fuel in case the airport is closed where you're going. But in the case of the lunar module, we had about 120 seconds of margin.
Nobody had ever been on the moon. There was no way of knowing that, even if landing was possible, the module wouldn’t sink or the surface otherwise wouldn’t be lethal to the astronauts.
Quote:Gavin: When we started all this, we didn't know what the surface of the moon was like. We went ahead with a very conservative landing gear design because there never had been a rocket-propelled vertical-landing machine.
Bruce McCandless, astronaut (CapCom), Green Team, Mission Control: It was a relief that the dust on the lunar surface was actually only half an inch deep.
Don Beattie, program manager, Apollo Lunar Surface Experiments: Another [concern] was that the dust would be pyrophoric--that when they opened the cabin of the lunar module, oxygen would react with dust and explode. There was no way we could be sure until the guys opened up the door and the oxygen flowed out.
The lift off of the lunar module also wasn’t tested. The Apollo 17 lift off violates the laws of physics as the Lunar Module doesn’t slowly accelerate.
Quote:Gavin: In my mind, the riskiest unknown in the whole mission was the takeoff. When the astronaut pressed the button, a whole bunch of things had to happen. The explosive bolts connecting the two stages had to fire. And then the ascent engine had to be ignited to lift the ascent stage off. And somehow as it left the descent stage, the exhaust from the ascent engine had to go somewhere.
Buzz Aldrin: It was not a gradual liftoff. It was a sudden departure--but without any of the forces that go along with rapid acceleration. Looking out the window, everything was getting smaller so fast that [we didn't really notice] the craft going through a gradual pitch forward.
Because much of the Moon landings couldn’t be tested if I had been the Test Manager, I would have advised against landing on the moon.
Quote:Alan Kehlet, Apollo chief project engineer, North American Rockwell: Some guy ran an analysis of all the critical events that had to take place and came to the conclusion we didn't have enough reliability, that it would never work. But we discarded it.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/space/m...apollo-11/
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Another huge fail in the official science fiction story on the moon landing, is radiation. NASA hasn´t even tried to give a plausible explanations for how this was coped with.
There´s the Van Allen radiation belts for which NASA has almost admitted that a human mission can´t pass it and the huge temparature in space before reaching the moon and on the moon in the sunlight.
In 1958, Professor James van Allen discovered a huge amount of radiation surrounding the earth. Van Allen asked the US military to send a Geiger counter into space to measure the intensity of the radiation.
The Geiger counter confirmed that the region above the earth was cooking with deadly radiation. The Van Allen radiation belts (as they were later called) appeared to surround the entire earth; it starts 400 miles and extends out some 65,000 miles above the earth’s surface.
There was an inner belt and an outer radiation belt. The inner belt went from 40 degrees north and south of the Equator and was basically a doughnut surrounding the earth. The outer belt was separated from the inner belt by an area of lesser radiation. Many years later a third radiation belt “the storage ring” between the inner and outer belt was discovered.
Scientific experiments conducted by Van Allen and the military showed that both belts separately were deadly to humans without additional shielding. Van Allen stated that even if you raced quickly through the radiation belts, you would still need additional shielding.
In 1959, Van Allen delivered his conclusion in a speech to the Academy of Science “ All manned space flight attempts must steer clear of these two belts of radiation until adequate means of safeguarding the astronauts has been developed”.
According to Van Allen the space ship’s exterior made of aluminium could not protect the astronauts against the deadly radiation.
The National Committee on Radiation Protection (NCRP) and the International Commission on Radiological Protection (ICRP) had established “permissible doses” of radiation at levels that were consistent with living on earth. This would require additional shielding of lead or another substance and would add weight, making the astronauts on the moon impossible.
In order to go through Van Allen’s belt, in 1965 NASA simply requested that the regulatory groups “modify” the standards for space flight (allowing the astronauts to receive much more radiation).
Then NASA could announce that a simple aluminium skin on the command module was enough to protect astronauts from the allowable doses of radiation.
Years later Van Allen explained that he still “stands by” his conclusions of 1959-1961. But Van Allen also “stands by” NASA’s point of view that even aluminium, without extra shielding, was enough to protect the astronauts from the radiation he called deadly.
Van Allen labelled his original findings merely “popular science” and “a sloppy statement”: https://alixus.wordpress.com/the-van-allen-enigma/
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Because there is no atmosphere the effects (of the heat) of the sun are much larger than on earth. Vacuum is an almost perfect insulator, which means that those poor astronuts couldn´t get rid of the heat from the sunlight.
On earth when the sun is at a low angle (for example in the morning), the intensity of the sunlight falling on earth becomes much less because the sunlight travels a longer distance through the atmosphere. The atmosphere “dims” the sunlight that warms the atmosphere.
There is another effect of the angle at which the sun shines on the moon that is explained in the following picture.
When the sun shines at an angle of 60 degrees from shining “straight down”; the sun becomes 50% less intense as the same (amount of) sunlight heats an area twice as large…
Following through on this “effect”, the part of a hill in the sunlight on the moon would heat up much faster than the surrounding ground area. The “dark side” of a hill would hardly heat up at all in the early “morning” of the lunar day.
The Apollo moon “movies” were mostly staged on the “sunny” side of hills on the moon, where the heat, during the lunar “morning”, would be even more intense.
The astronauts (in their “magical” space suits) stand or walk (vertically) on the moon. Because of this same “effect”, during the lunar “morning” they would (theoretically) heat up even faster than when the sun would be shining straight down (a couple of earth days later)…
The lunar module would also receive relatively more sunlight during the lunar “morning” than the surrounding surface.
The rocket ship travelling towards the moon (and back) would also be in the full burning sunlight…
The following 2 images come from an interesting article on the amounts of “soft” X-ray radiation the astronauts were exposed to on their trip to the moon. This includes “high energy” X-rays of an intensity of > 10 ^ -4 W/m2: http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1996CoSka..26...98A
For what it’s worth: according to NASA the T in the following table indicates the total intensity of the flares in July 1969 (left side of the table; the right side is June/July 1970).
In the following picture once again the part of the astronut in the shadow looks in the light…
See the following photo (2:24) from the documentary " IN HIS OWN WORDS: BUZZ ALDRIN 40 YEARS LATER": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j9Fo7XayCg
The flag and pole are the only things in colour.
Notice the flag waving in the wind…
See the blow up of the bottom of the flag pole.
The pole has NO shadow.
The bottom of the pole is perfectly straight, looks like it’s floating instead of inserted into the lunar surface.
Following is the $350 million Apollo 16 Lunar Module in action (over $25 billion corrected for inflation)...
Pay special attention to the buckled thermal panels!
Here’s the Apollo 16 Lunar Module supposedly after it had landed on the moon. See all the gold foil, with some black fabric draped sort of around at some spots. The top looks like cardboard with holes in between!
This should be robust enough to protect the astronuts from the vacuum, the radiation and could withstand the landing (without wheels!).
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Moon rocks and lunar mirrors
The NASA claims that the rocks they took back from the moon and mirrors they placed there is evidence that astronuts actually walked one the moon is possibly even more ridiculous than those poor quality videos with “amazing” special effects...
According to the NASA propaganda, the hundreds of pounds of “moon rocks” brought back are solid evidence that astronauts collected these on the moon.
Supposedly geologists worldwide have confirmed that these rocks were found on the moon. If they examined only a couple of grams, why would we believe that the other hundreds of pounds are of the same material?
They couldn’t verify that these were from the moon by comparing it to the “real thing”, but instead verified if these rocks are from the moon by comparing them to what the official theory is. It would be very surprising if the common consensus, controlled by the same powers that control NASA, wouldn’t confirm that these rocks are from the moon!
As for the story that these “moon rocks” couldn’t have been collected on earth…
More than 330 meteorites similar to the supposed “moon rocks” have been found on earth.
According to NASA these “lunar meteorites” actually originate from the moon.
They explain that these “lunar meteorites” on earth, with that meteoroids strike the Moon every day (fortunately none of the astronauts in their magical space suits were hit...) that caused some “moon rocks” reach lunar escape velocity of 2.38 km/s (more than 8500 km/h!): http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites.htm
I was surprised to learn that the “moon rocks” sold by NASA for “extraordinary evidence” of the “moon landings” were filled with oxygen: https://www.sciencenews.org/article/50-y...moon-rocks
The differences in supposed moon rocks and rocks found on our earth are only slight. They’re so very slight that one could argue that the supposed moon rocks were never found on the moon but found right here on earth...
In January 2019, it was reported that Jeremy Bellucci analysed a rock that the Apollo 14 astronauts in 1971 brought back from the moon. Bellucci and his team found out that it´s highly unlikely that the rock was indeed formed on the moon, but that it makes perfect sense that it instead formed on Earth.
What makes this discovery even more amazing, is that it has been dated older, 4.011 billion years old, than any rock that has ever been found and analysed on earth...
Even if it would be possible for a rock on earth to be ejected from the earth with an escape velocity of 40,270 km/h (!) and landing on the moon, which is even more difficult to believe than rocks reaching an escape velocity of 8500 km/h from the moon, it would still seem impossible, statistically speaking, that an earth rock found on the moon would be older than any rock discovered on earth: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/scien...4-zircons/
(archived here: http://web.archive.org/web/2019020506030...4-zircons/)
This isn´t the first time that it was discovered that a supposed moon rock, was actually an earth rock...
In August 2009, it was found out that a moon rock given to former Dutch prime minister Willem Drees by the Apollo 11 astronauts in 1969 was nothing more than petrified wood.
After Drees died in 1988, the rock was donated to the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam and put on display: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science...-fake.html
According to Ralph Rene: Quote:I have been told that Werner Von Braun retrieved two cases of rocks using a U.S. Navy ship in the Antarctic years before the Apollo missions. The shipping labels on the cases said "NASA, Houston, Texas".
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Or they could have used rock samples picked up in Antarctica during the intensive exploration of that continent during the International Geophysical Year in 1957, when that continent was extensively explored. Werner Von Braun had Antarctic rocks shipped to NASA. Any strange rock would do if there were no fossils in it. These rocks could be slowly doled out, but only to those geologists who could be counted on to agree with anything the government said. Much of academia can be relied on to do just that!
Strangely enough, rocks were later found in Antarctica that closely resemble "Moon rocks". In point of fact, some geologists are now positive that these rocks were blasted from the Moon to Earth during immense meteoric impacts.
Previous quote from Ralph Rene - " NASA Mooned America" (1994): https://ia800406.us.archive.org/31/items...37%20p.pdf
During the summer of 1966–67, Von Braun and a small group of other top NASA managers took a “field trip” to Antarctica.
I think that the NASA stories on the mirrors on the moon to reflect laser light coming from earth to convince us that their astronauts walked on the moon (and the Soviets landed unmanned rockets), is even more ridiculous than the rest of the hoax...
According to the state propaganda, Apollo 11, 14 and 15 and 2 Soviet Lunokhod missions placed retroreflectors on the moon.
Let’s see if I can come up with an “easy” experiment to compare this to.
Imagine 2 high mountains (on earth) some 100 km apart.
On mountain 1; a team fires a laser at a 1 cubic centimetre large mirror that is riding on a train on mountain 2 (at a distance of 100 km).
The team on mountain 1 then measures the time it took for the laser light to reflect back, to determine the distance to the mirror.
Now from this “simple” experiment to the moon at a distance of 384.400 km, and a retroreflector of some 0.5 meters square.
That would be so difficult that I would call it impossible (not even talking about that they couldn’t test it, but claim success just the same).
The first problem is actually hitting the retroreflector, even without the laser light diverging by earth’s atmosphere (both going out and coming in).
If you send a laser light the beam is about 6.5 kilometres (4.0 miles) wide at the moon (according to the official story), when it returns, why would you believe that the light was reflected by the reflector?
According to the official propaganda only one out of 10^17 photons “aimed” at the reflector, is received back on Earth, even under good conditions. It seems probable that the moon surface would reflect more of the laser light than the 0.5 square meter mirror…
They couldn’t even verify that the beam is 6.5 kilometres wide at the moon…
Another problem is getting the retroreflector aligned precisely so it reflects to the exact location on earth…
NASA has made up the following interesting explanation that the retroreflectors (corner-cube prisms) return any light exactly back in the direction from which it came: https://tmurphy.physics.ucsd.edu/apollo/lrrr.html
The problem here is that in the real world “exact” doesn’t exist and there would be an inaccuracy in the direction, making it impossible to detect the light that comes back from the moon (768.800 kilometres round trip).
I haven’t found information on the inaccuracy of the retroreflectors placed on the moon almost 50 years ago. I’ve seen a couple of internet pages about current retroreflectors with an accuracy of 3 arc seconds: https://www.thorlabs.de/newgrouppage9.cf...oup_id=145
NASA supposedly uses these reflectors to more accurately determine the distance to the moon.
Because the moon moves, the NASA “scientists” should have to know the exact distance to the moon, which is of course also inaccurate. Maybe after they could accurately determine its distance (using the reflectors) they could actually perform this experiment successfully...
What about dust on the reflectors?
I’ll not even try to figure out how gravity affects the laser light...
For some reason, in 2009 the wonderful moon mirror project was scrapped: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2...er-funding
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NASA in the movies - Glennan, Von Braun
If NASA would’ve really tried to place astronauts on the moon and returned them to earth, they would have needed scientists and engineers with a wide variety of expertise.
If NASA would only stage a hoax, they would need science fiction experts with experience in movie type special effects.
There is a huge amount of information on high NASA-officials that had years of experience in the movie industry (even involved in a science fiction movie on a voyage to the moon way back in the 1920s!).
I expect that the following posts in this thread are dedicated to NASA’s alliance with the movies.
The Hollywood movie industry has been working with the Pentagon and CIA since its inception: https://www.lawfulpath.com/forum/posting...f=7&p=2817
The first Administrator of National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) from 1958 to 1961 was Thomas Keith Glennan.
Glennan had already worked for the movies (for real) before turning his attention to the “hydrogen bomb” and “rocket science”.
After his graduation in 1927 until 1947 he worked in the film industry in the US and Britain, to become operations manager for Paramount and studio manager for Samuel Goldwyn.
In 1950, at President Harry S. Truman's request, Glennan became one of 5 commissioners of the Atomic Energy Commission for 2 years. The most significant hoax the commission staged was the hydrogen bomb.
One of Glennan’s first NASA recruits was German Nazi “rocket engineer” Wernher von Braun: https://www.nytimes.com/1995/04/12/obitu...gency.html
Here’s an overview of the career of T. Keith Glennan.
1935-1941 - Operations, Studio Manager Paramount Pictures
1941 - Executive Vega Airplane Corporation
1941-1942 - Studio Manager Samuel Goldwyn Studios
1942-1945 - Administrator, Director U. S. Navy Underwater Sound Laboratory
1945-1947 - Production Manager Ansco Division, General Aniline and Film
1950-1952 - Commissioner U. S. Atomic Energy Commission
1958-1961 – Administrator NASA
1970-1973 - U.S. representative International Atomic Energy Agency: http://www.case.edu/its/archives/preside...ummary.htm
For more information on Glennan’s career in the movies: Quote:During his five and a half years at Paramount Glennan provided the logistics necessary to allow the studio's creative teams to stage their productions. He worked with such Hollywood notables as Cecil B. DeMille.
Glennan was also credited with important innovations in the film industry during his time at Paramount, including the first full-fledged engineering department in the business and the first recognized industrial relations department.
http://www.smashwords.com/extreader/read...sa-sp-4105
Wernher Magnus Maximilian Freiherr von Braun (1912 – 1977) was a German-born science fiction writer. He was so successful because he belonged to a “noble” family.
His father, Magnus Freiherr von Braun served as Minister of Agriculture. His mother, Emmy von Quistorp traced her ancestry to medieval European royalty and was a descendant of Philip III of France, Valdemar I of Denmark, Robert III of Scotland, and Edward III of England. He descended from Royal blood, maybe you haven’t heard that these Royals claim that the “lion” in all of their coats of arms, represents the “lion of Judah” (to illustrate their Jewish ancestry).
Not coincidentally Wernher von Braun married his maternal first cousin, Maria Luise von Quistorp (born in 1928), in 1947 (she was 16 years younger and he proposed after she turned 18).
In 1930, Von Braun attended a presentation given by Auguste Piccard (pioneer of high-altitude balloon flight), and reportedly said to him: " You know, I plan on traveling to the Moon at some time".
According to the state propaganda Von Braun was involved in the development of rocket technology in Germany, and helped to design and develop the V-2 rocket. Before 1939, German “scientists” contacted American physicist Robert H. Goddard with technical questions. Goddard was glad to help them to develop the A-4 rocket that would later become known as the V-2.
Hitler personally made Von Braun a professor because he had showed him a really “scientific” colour movie showing an A-4 taking off on 7 July 1943; an exceptional promotion for an engineer of only 31 years.
After the “suicide” of Adolf Hitler was announced, Von Braun immediately joined the Allied forces, at the beginning of May 1945.
He and his group that developed missile technology were part of the about 1,600 German “scientists” that were recruited by the US in Operation Paperclip.
Between 1952 and 1956, Von Braun led the Army's rocket development team that developed the Redstone rocket for nuclear ballistic missile, which was never used for real. Van Braun supposedly developed the rockets that launched the US’s first space satellite Explorer 1.
Wernher von Braun and his group were recruited by NASA in 1958.
In 1952, Von Braun first published his science fiction story on a manned space station in a series of articles titled " Man Will Conquer Space Soon!". This built on the 1929 science fiction story by Herman Potocnik in his book “ The Problem of Space Travel – The Rocket Motor”.
The 1968 movie “ 2001 a space odyssey“ would draw heavily on this science fiction story.
Von Braun wrote a science fiction novel on human spaceflight to Mars the subject, Von Braun later published small portions of this opus in magazines. Wernher von Braun “anticipated” later stories on serious adverse reactions caused by weightlessness (space sickness).
Von Braun also made science fiction television films with Walt Disney and the Disney studios in the 1950s. The initial broadcast about space exploration “ Man in Space” had 40 million viewers.
See Wernher von Braun, Willi Ley, Walt Disney and Dr. E. Heinz Haber (another Nazi Rocket "scientist" brought to the US in Operation Paperclip).
In staging Apollo, Von Braun worked closely with former Peenemünde teammate, Kurt H. Debus, the first director of the Kennedy Space Center. His dream to sell the science fiction story of “The first men in the moon” became a reality on 16 July 1969, when the gullible public was fooled by some stupid video footage. It were reportedly the Saturn V rockets that made the astronauts land on the moon.
See Charles W. Mathews, Von Braun, George Mueller, and Lt. Gen. Samuel C. Phillips in the Launch Control Center following the Apollo 11 liftoff, 16 July 1969.
When the Apollo program didn’t get enough viewers it was aborted, and Von Braun retired from NASA on 26 May 1972: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun
In 1930, von Braun attended the Technische Hochschule Berlin, where he joined the Spaceflight Society and assisted Willy Ley in his liquid-fuelled rocket motor tests with Hermann Oberth.
German immigrant Willi Ley was America’s primary source on the Vril Society and the flying saucer technology of Nazi Germany. Ley had been a Vril-Thule member.
Starting in 1931, Willi Ley tutored Wernher von Braun on rocket science. In 1939, Wernher von Braun became a high ranking Nazi SS Officer. He was head of the team that designed the German V-2 rockets.
In 1945, through “Operation Paperclip” Von Braun was brought to the US where he became a founder of the US disinformation campaign NASA.
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NASA movies - Oberth, Von Braun, Frau im mond
It looks like just about all of the major science fiction movies on space travel have been made with NASA personnel...
I had already found that the first administrator of NASA, T. Keith Glennan, had been a big Hollywood manager before he became involved in staging the “hydrogen bombs” and space travel hoaxes and that German Nazi Wernher von Braun worked with Glennan and Walt Disney.
Hermann Oberth was born on June 25, 1894 in Transylvania (then part of the Austro-Hungarian empire now part of Romania). He was born to German speaking parents and became a German.
At an early age, Oberth became a huge fan of spaceflight science fiction by authors like Jules Verne. Just like Wernher von Braun and Robert Goddard.
Oberth learned of the 1919 book by Robert Goddard " A Method Of Reaching Extreme Altitudes". In 1922, Oberth wrote to Goddard and suggested an international project to develop liquid-fuelled rockets.
In 1923, Oberth published his book " Die Rakete Zu Den Planetenraumen" (The Rocket Into Planetary Space).
In 1927, Oberth joined the Verein fur Raumschiffahrt (Society for Space Travel) to become its president. Members of the Verein fur Raumschiffahrt included: Willy Ley, Johannes Winkler, Max Valier, Rudolf Nebel, Kurt Hainisch, Walter Hohmannn, Eugene Sanger , Klaus Riedel, Rolf Engel, and the young Wernher von Braun.
In 1928, Oberth became technical advisor to director Fritz Lang, who was filming the movie "Frau Im Mond" (Woman in the moon). On the set Oberth was helped by Ley, Valier, Nebel, Riedel and the young and eager science fiction fan Wernher von Braun.
Oberth (with the help of Von Braun) constructed and tested a small rocket engine on 23 July 1930. See members of the Verein fur Raumschiffahrt with the rocket in Berlin, 1930. From left to right: Rudolf Nebel, Franz Ritter, unknown, Kurt Heinisch, unknown, Hermann Oberth, unknown, Klaus Riedel, Wernher von Braun, unknown.
Oberth worked at Peenemunde from 1941 to 1943.
After World War II, Oberth came to the US to continue to work on science fiction with Wernher von Braun at the Army Ballistic Missile Agency: http://waterocket.explorer.free.fr/herman_oberth.htm
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Even at a young age, Wernher Von Braun was a huge fan of science fiction books about space travel, including the fictional stories of Jules Verne and H.G. Wells (the inventor of “The first men in the moon” and “atomic bombs”). He even wrote his own science fiction including “Lunetta” that was published in a German magazine, about a rocket flight to a space station.
Von Braun also wrote a letter to arguably the greatest liar of the 20th century, Albert Einstein (1879–1955), with rocketry-related questions. Von Braun proudly showed Einstein’s reply to his parents, his professors and fellow students.
In 1947, the 34-year-old Von Braun married his 18-year-old maternal first cousin, Maria Luise von Quistorp (born in 1928). Von Braun had been “wooing” the underage Maria for years.
In 1955, Maria and Wernher von Braun renounced their German citizenship to become US citizens: https://ascelibrary.org/doi/full/10.1061...30.0000162
See the following video where Wernher Von Braun presents a pure science fiction story of going to the moon (look at the pictures!).
He tells about a refuelling operation in low earth orbit, and an atomic reactor.
This goofball was made a physics professor by Hitler for his coloured movie presentation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GXFPXala6k
So Oberth and the young Von Braun were already involved in special effects for the movies long before they came to the US to work their “magic”...
See Hermann Oberth in the forefront with Wernher von Braun seated right behind him at the Army Ballistic Missile Agency at Huntsville, Alabama in 1956. Also pictured Ernst Stuhlinger (seated on the left); H.N. Toftoy, Commanding Officer and responsible for "Project Paperclip" (in uniform); and Robert Lusser (standing on the right).
Fritz Lang is best known for his futuristic masterpiece Metropolis (1926) that nearly bankrupted Germany’s state-financed studio, Ufa.
Lang worked closely with Germany’s leading rocketry science fiction expert, Hermann Oberth, and they visually replicated the rocket described in Oberth’s book, " Die Rakete Zu Den Planetenraumen".
Forty years later the Apollo 11 moon landing closely followed Lang’s and Oberth’s “film script”.
The film featured a multiple-stage booster system to attain escape velocity; a fin stabilisation design for the rocket’s base; before the launch, a media frenzy descends upon the area; and a count down to zero for launch.
The movie shows a crew floating in zero gravity in the space ship.
After the rocket lands on the moon, the crew encounters lower gravity.
As part of the film’s publicity, Oberth and Wernher von Braun tried to launch an actual rocket for the film’s premiere. This stunt failed.
Oberth also advised for the American movie of the moon landing “ Destination Moon” (1950)”: http://sensesofcinema.com/2004/cteq/woman_in_the_moon/
(archived here: http://archive.is/xL56h)
Here’s the Lunar landing segment from the movie “ Destination Moon” (1950)”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8qqX1d7iDo
I was shocked to find out how “advanced” the special effects were in Lang’s science fiction movie, 40 years before the Apollo moon landings were staged. Judge for yourself…
Launch scene Frau im mond
https://youtu.be/I8gu1p939a4
Landing on the moon scene Frau im mond
https://youtu.be/nkiRCNMq_Es
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NASA movies – Kubrick, Ordway, Clarke, Lange
Anybody that has looked into the “conspiracy stories” on the moon landing hoax, has certainly heard the stories on Stanley Kubrick directing the whole thing. This is NOT true of course!
But what is true that NASA had several employees working at “ 2001: A Space Odyssey” to learn the latest on special effects...
In 1941, former Disney animator Lester Novros founded Graphic Films that made propaganda films for industry and government clients like Lockheed, Boeing, the US Air Force and NASA.
Stanley Kubrick saw NASA propaganda film “ To The Moon And Beyond” made by Graphic Films. In 1965, Kubrick recruited Graphic Films’ Lester Novros, Con Pederson, and Douglas Trumbull to work on “ 2001: A Space Odyssey”.
Graphic Films advised Kubrick on special effects. Pederson sent Kubrick a film made by experimental filmmaker John Whitney, Sr., Novros’ long-time friend and colleague. Douglas Trumbull further developed Whitney’s slit-scan technique that was used for the “Stargate” sequence towards the end of 2001.
Pederson wrote to Kubrick about the slit scanning technique that “ Its possibilities are limitless”.
Other artist involved in “ 2001: A Space Odyssey”: illustrators Chesley Bonestell, Roy Carnon, and Richard McKenna; artificial intelligence pioneer Marvin Minsky; IBM industrial designer Eliot Noyes; and effects artist Wally Gentleman (who’d worked on Universe for the National Film Board of Canada): http://scienceandfilm.org/articles/2656/...ce-odyssey
Douglas Trumbull arrived in Hollywood in the early-60s with a portfolio " all full of science fiction, alien planets, spaceships, things like that". After working in advertising he worked for the small Graphic Films company, who made propaganda films for NASA.
Trumbull made all the artwork for “ To The Moon And Beyond”.
Trumbull would continue his career, making special effects for films like The Andromeda Strain, Close Encounters, Blade Runner and Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Trumbull's debut as director was the science fiction movie Silent Running (1972).
At the beginning of the 1980s his career in the movies was somehow derailed.
After that Steven Spielberg asked Trumbull to work on the Back to the Future ride.
Years later Trumbull did the special effects for The Tree of Life (2011): https://www.theguardian.com/film/2011/ju...al-effects
In 2013, banker’s son Frederick Ira Ordway III (1927-2014) was awarded the Arthur C. Clarke Lifetime Achievement Award.
Ordway had been a huge fan of science fiction on space travel since he since he was 10. In 1941, Ordway (13) became a member of the American Rocket Society.
In 1950, Ordway first met science fiction writer Arthur C. Clarke, who helped him to become a fellow of the British Interplanetary Society. They became long-time friends.
Ordway became a top official at NASA and worked closely with Wernher von Braun, including on the Apollo program.
In 1965, Ordway met Clarke who was working with movie director Stanley Kubrick on a science fiction movie based on his story “ The Sentinel”. After Clarke called Kubrick, Ordway was swiftly asked to become the “scientific and technical advisor” to the film that became “ 2001: A Space Odyssey” (1968): http://web.archive.org/web/2018011707524...rdway-iii/
NASA’s Associate Administrator for Manned Space Flight, George Mueller, nicknamed the film’s production facilities “NASA East”.
See from left to right NASA officials touring MGM Borehamwood during pre-production of “ 2001: A Space Odyssey”: Fred Ordway, Deke Slayton (astronaut), Arthur C. Clarke, anonymous NASA assistant, Stanley Kubrick, and George C. Mueller.
Ordway wasn’t only working on the movie with NASA officials, but also with major corporations like General Electric, Bell Telephone Laboratories and IBM.
The name of the robot star of the movie “HAL” is notably only one letter removed from “IBM”.
Ordway explained about “rocket scientists”: Quote:They all read H. G. Wells and Jules Verne. Science fiction got us all started in the early days, I think without exception.
In 1949, Arthur C. Clarke helped to make his friend Von Braun an honorary member of the British Interplanetary Society: http://thetruthseekersguide.blogspot.com...art-3.html
Also involved in both NASA and “ 2001: A Space Odyssey” was the German-born Harry Lange (born 1930), Ordway’s partner in their General Astronautics publishing and consultancy company. Lange was specialised in making science fiction drawings.
In 1954, Ordway and Lange helped set up General Astronautics that in 1960 was acquired by NASA.
Lange made illustrations to promote the science fiction projects of Von Braun. Von Braun told him: " Harry, your work makes money".
After “ 2001: A Space Odyssey”, Lange settled in England to design sets for films, including Kelly's Heroes (1970); Star Wars (1977); The Empire Strikes Back (1980); The Return of the Jedi (1983); Moonraker (1979); and The Meaning of Life (1983): https://www.theguardian.com/film/2008/ju...es.culture
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NASA-Hollywood bromance; Magnificent Desolation
The “bromance” between NASA and Hollywood has continued to this very day.
No government agency is so intertwined with Hollywood as NASA. NASA provides material support for space movies to justify its $19 billion annual budget. NASA also stages PR stunts like interviews with astronauts from space and science experiments from the International Space Station for the kids.
NASA actually negotiates with the movie studios to get more exposure.
Naturally NASA worked on Ron Howard’s Apollo 13 (1995).
NASA’s Boeing KC-135 aircraft, normally used to prepare astronauts for zero gravity, was also used to shoot the weightless scenes with the stars of the movie Tom Hanks, Kevin Bacon, and Bill Paxton.
Hollywood has worked on space movies like: Gravity, Hidden Figures, Passengers, The Space Between Us, and Life. In many of these cases, NASA offered expertise, personnel, and even shooting locations, to bring these propaganda films to life.
Bert Ulrich has worked on dozens of films for NASA, including: The Avengers, Hidden Figures, and Transformers: Dark of the Moon. During the filming of Tomorrowland at the Kennedy Space Center, Ulrich watched the launch of the Mars maven probe with stars in the movie Hugh Laurie and George Clooney. He also hoped to get approval for First Man, with Ryan Gosling as Neil Armstrong.
Not all the films that NASA is involved in feature the official NASA logo.
Space movies that don’t feature enough NASA input, like Gravity, are often ridiculed for their lack of “scientific accuracy”.
NASA’s main mission these days is Mars — President Donald even met Elon Musk to talk about a possible flight.
One of the most prominent film projects was Ron Howard’s National Geographic “documentary” Mars.
NASA also helped on Ridley Scott’s 2015 film The Martian. Jim Green, director of NASA’s Planetary Science Division, was asked to speak with Ridley. Green is the head of a $1.6 billion division that apparently could find nothing better to do than consult a movie director.
According to the state propaganda, the result was one of the most realistic depictions of a mission to Mars ever.
The Martian got 7 Oscar nominations and generated priceless publicity for the space program. After the movie was completed, star of the movie Matt Damon even visited the Jet Propulsion Laboratory facility in California for a press event alongside astronaut Drew Feustel and other NASA employees.
NASA was pleased that Margot Lee Shetterly’s book Hidden Figures was filmed, about 3 African-American mathematicians who helped launch John Glenn: https://www.mensjournal.com/entertainmen...e-w470462/
Not only NASA has been involved with Hollywood, but also the Pentagon and CIA…
An American got information on propaganda movies in which the Pentagon collaborated by means of a FOIA request.
He got a 2014 list with 323 movies and a 2016 file with 410. The 90 added movies were mostly “older” films; some from the 2014 list were excluded.
Both lists aren’t complete. The 2015 film Aloha, is for example missing, but this is referred to in the Air Force’s entertainment liaison office reports.
Following are some of the propaganda movies in which the Pentagon collaborated:
Apollo 13; Armageddon; Batman and Robin; Superman vs Batman; A bridge too far;
Clear and present danger; The hunt for Red October; Patriot games; Sum of all fears;
Empire of the sun; From here to eternity; Godzilla;
Goldfinger; License to kill;
I am legend; Indiana Jones and the last crusade; Jurassic park III;
The killing fields; Karate kid II; The next Karate kid;
The silence of the lambs; Sleepless in Seattle;
Star Trek IV; Star Trek: resurrection; Top Gun;
Transformers; Transformers 2; Transformers 3; Transformers dark of the moon; Transformers: revenge of the fallen;
True lies: https://www.spyculture.com/updated-compl...dod-films/
Or watch the movie “ Magnificent Desolation: Walking on the Moon 3D” (2005); co-written, produced and directed by Mark Cowen, and co-written, produced and starring Tom Hanks (who also starred in Apollo 13).
This looks like the real thing to me but with a much better fidelity...
For this film they used Green screen special effects, with the hills in the background added later. This technology was already available in the 1960s.
They didn’t need trillions to make it, but only $3 million. The movie made more than $40 million at the box office…
See “ Magnificent Desolation: Walking on the Moon 3D”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93DxZ_NmZB8
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NASA – freemasons and the British BIS
The ancient Hebrew “ Nasa” has been translated in the KJV as lift up, arise, exalt, extol, raise, high, etc.
The ancient Hebrew “Nasi” is actually derived from “Nasa” (is “Nazi” just another spelling of “Nasi”?).
I’ve already posted that NASA has been affiliated with Hollywood. Also of note is that the German Nazis were pushing the alien invasion threat with flying saucers.
It should come as no surprise that many NASA astronauts were freemasons.
The motto for the “Most noble Order of the Garter” (that rules Freemasonry) – Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense – was in the code for the master ignition routine for Apollo 11.
On 16 September 1969, Mason Edwin “Buzz” Aldrin visited the House of the Temple in Washington. He was accompanied by his father, Edwin E. Aldrin, Sr., also a Scottish Rite Mason.
Aldrin supposedly took this masonic flag to the moon.
John Glenn, one of NASA’s first astronauts and US senator, is a Mason.
Edgar Mitchell, a supposed moon-walker in the Apollo 14 mission, is an Order at Artesta Lodge in New Mexico.
James Irwin, who also supposedly walked on the moon in Apollo 15, was a Tejon Lodge member in Colorado Springs.
Donn Eisele, who was on Apollo 7, was a member of the Luther B. Turner Lodge in Ohio.
Gordon Cooper, who was aboard Mercury 9 and Gemini 5, was a Master Mason in Carbondale Lodge in Colorado.
Virgil Grissom, who was on Apollo 1 and 15, Mercury 5 and Gemini 3, was a Master Mason from Mitchell Lodge in Indiana.
Walter Schirra Jr., part of Apollo 7, Sigma 7, Gemini 6 and Mercury 8, was a 33rd degree Mason at Canaveral Lodge in Florida.
Thomas Stafford, on Apollo 10 and 18, Gemini 7 and 9, is a Mason at Western Star Lodge in Oklahoma.
Paul Weitz, on Skylab 2 and Challenger, is from Lawrence Lodge in Pennsylvania.
NASA astronauts Neil Armstrong, Allen Sheppard, William Pogue, Vance Brand, and Anthony England all had fathers who were Freemasons too!
The brother of C. Fred Kleinknecht, head of NASA at the time of the Apollo moon hoax program, even became Sovereign Grand Commander of the Council of the 33rd Degree of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry of the Southern Jurisdiction: https://aplanetruth.info/space-travelers...reemasons/
See Buzz Aldrin’s 19 September 1969 “thank you” letter to Grand Commander Smith after his visit at the House of the Temple.
Both Hermann Oberth and Wernher von Braun became honorary fellows of the British Interplanetary Society (BIS) in 1949. Both were introduced to the BIS by science writer Arthur C. Clarke (who later became the chairman of BIS).
It looks like the British Interplanetary Society played an important (controlling) role in staging the Apollo moon landings.
Wernher von Braun’s ultimate goal was a manned mission to Mars and developed plans for 160-foot long rocket ships carrying 20 astronauts!
Grumman’s Lunar Module Chief Design Engineer, Thomas Kelly, was 1 of only 2 employees that worked on LM designs that led to the NASA-contract in 1962.
By the early 1950s, Clarke was communicating with Von Braun and Hermann Oberth.
Many Americans became BIS members over the years, including senior NASA figures as Dr. Kurt Debus (Director of the John F. Kennedy Space Center); and Gerald Griffin (Lead Flight Director during Apollo).
The son of Ralph A. Smith (of the BIS) later worked for NASA on the Apollo programme. NASA's primary contractors for Apollo were staffed with BIS members, including Grumman's project manager for the Lunar Module Joseph Gavin Jr.: https://stars-genes-and-quarks.blogspot....s-and.html
(archived here: http://archive.is/HWED8)
In 1937 the British Interplanetary Society, began working on a science fiction story on a manned moon landing mission. The BIS finished their story in 1939.
It is remarkable how similar this story was to what was sold to the gullible public from 1969 to 1972 by NASA.
Ideally, the launch location would be at a high-altitude not far from the equator.
There was a Central Module and a Lunar Lander. For the lunar landing, special shock-absorbing legs would extend from the base.
The Central Module would use parachutes to land on earth.
The lunar lander was to be a gumdrop-shaped vehicle strongly resemblance NASA’s Lunar Module (11 feet tall and 13.5 feet in diameter).
See the British Lunar Lander pictured on the moon
The rocket ships had windows in addition to “coelostats” that provided a good view of space while the cabin rotated. Arthur C. Clarke contributed to the design of the “coelostat”.
Another major contributor to the design was artist Ralph A. Smith, who made beautiful paintings of the spaceship in flight and on the moon. Smith later designed a space station concept and collaborated with Clarke on the book “ The Exploration of the Moon”.
The only big differences I can see between the science fiction story of BIS and Apollo, are:
The BIS design had no onboard computer and used solid-fuelled engines (in 1949 Von Braun played a key role in making the BIS team “switch” to liquid-fuelled engines: https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-union-jack-o...1262867212
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NASA simulation studio
There is hard evidence that NASA had a studio built to simulate the descend to and ascend from the moon! Such a simulation couldn’t really be used instead of proper testing or training, but it could be used as preparation for making an even more realistic movie that would be sold to the world as the “real” thing.
Donald Hewes oversaw operations/filming for the “simulation”.
James Hansen writes: Quote:To make the simulated landings more authentic, Hewes and his men filled the base of the huge eight legged, red and white structure with dirt and modelled it to resemble the moon's surface. They erected floodlights at the proper angles to simulate lunar light and installed a black screen at the far end of the gantry to mimic the airless lunar "sky." Hewes personally climbed into the fake craters with cans of everyday black enamel to spray them so that the astronauts could experience the shadows that they would see during the actual moon landing.
From A.W. Vigil – Piloted Space Flight Simulation at Langley Research Center: Quote:Ground based simulators are not very satisfactory for studying the problems associated with the final phases of landing. This is due primarily to the fact that the visual scene cannot be simulated with sufficient realism. For this reason it is preferable to go to some sort of flight test simulator which can provide real life visual cues. One research facility designed to study the final phases of lunar landing is in operation at Langley.
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The facility is an overhead crane structure about 250 feet tall and 400 feet long. The crane system supports five sixths of the vehicle's weight through servo driven vertical cables. The remaining one sixth of the vehicle weight pulls the vehicle downward simulating the lunar gravitational force. During actual flights the overhead crane system is slaved to keep the cable near vertical at all times. A gimbal system on the vehicle permits angular freedom for pitch, roll, and yaw. The facility is capable of testing vehicles up to 20,000 pounds.
See the following huge white ball, with a trolley on the left (on which a camera was mounted). This was before the NASA science fiction artists converted the sphere to an authentic looking Moon with craters.
Here you can see an artist using plaster to transform the huge ball into a model of the Moon.
After the model of the moon was finished they filmed the rotating sphere.
The following picture shows the sphere after modelling work. Remove the seat and guy sitting on it and it looks like the (real) moon.
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index...opic=455.0
(archived here: http://archive.is/Usnu0)
If you’re thinking I’m making all of this up; see the article from the “mainstream” Daily Mail about the simulation: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...efore.html
One of the first “books” claiming that the Moon landings were faked was written by Bill Kaysing.
In the following video, Kaysing tells “how easy” it must have been to use the previous studio to fake the descend of the lunar module. Directly after the clip that concludes with “ the eagle has landed”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BSRJ0R6xYo
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Reflectors, JFK, Bush, Trump, Anomalities
NASA in 1962 first successfully bounced a laser beam from the moon and received it back on earth: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Lase...experiment
In the following 7 years they could have used laser light reflected from the moon to make maps with the location of “flat” areas on the surface of the moon.
As a result the retroreflector experiments would have been completely useless, wasting valuable time, money and space and mass on the rocket to the moon…
I’ve done a “simple” calculation.
When the laser light beam reaches the moon surface it reportedly has a diameter of about 6.5 kilometres. That’s more than 33 million square meter. The reflector is only 0.5 meter square.
If I divide the size of the reflector with the area of the beam on the moon that’s 1.5 10^-8.
If only 1 out of 10^17 photons “aimed” at the reflector, is received back on Earth, only 1 in 1.5 billion of photons that (supposedly) hit the reflector are received back on earth.
Maybe one day they could send astronauts to the moon to “prove” once and for all that almost 50 years ago American astronauts placed the flag of stripes and corruption on the moon?
On 25 May 1961, President John F. Kennedy made his famous speech to Congress: Quote:I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of landing a man on the Moon and returning him safely to the Earth.
I took a mere 8 years before the Apollo 11 moon landing was staged…
In May 1989, President George Bush Sr, made a similar announcement calling for a permanent camp on the moon and going to Mars.
In 2004, President George W. Bush called for starting a program going “back” to the moon by 2015 (still not staged)...
President Bush Jr. also said that soon after that the Moon should become " a launching point to missions beyond" (including the “red planet” Mars): https://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/14/polit...ation.html
Master showman Donald Trump seems to understand the true nature of propaganda and on 24 April 2017 promised a trip to Mars “ during my first term or, at worst, during my second term” (so in 4 years...).
There are also plans for an unmanned mission to the moon before the end of 2018:
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/04/...first-term
In the following video by Marcus Allen (7:54).
In one picture of the moon there are some identical duplicate sections.
In a 15-picture compiled panoramic view of the moon the Lunar Module can’t be seen.
The lens flare in some pictures weren’t possible with the type of cameras that were (supposedly) used.
Astronaut’s back in shadow shouldn’t show details (it should look black).
https://youtu.be/3TWiJQhaajA
The previous video also features information on NASA employee Donna Tietze Hare, who said that a NASA employee airbrushed official pictures of the moon.
Hare believes that they were editing pictures to cover-up “evidence” of UFOs (this doesn't help her credibility). She also tells that people disappeared because they looked at UFO pictures: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEBLmWhx...e=youtu.be
In the following video (7:33).
The lighting in the moon pictures is a major flaw – for example the parts of the astronauts that are (or should be) in the shadows.
Two locations on 2 days look identical, but are miles apart, according to NASA.
A couple of covered crosshairs can be seen.
https://youtu.be/H8ZzFemBUJQ
See an example of a covered crosshair.
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