[Steve]

Bank Giro Credit Slip -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imNzlik-93g


Wesley Ahmed goes in the post office to cash his Bank Giro Credit Slip

through the bill of exchange you can try 3 postage stamps on it at the front on the credit slip signed and dated, you then need another stamp on the return at the back which means you have taken control of the document, you then attach a piece of paper to the front and write at a diagonal from left to right going upwards none transferable you then stick another peace of paper on the back so you are not touching the document but gluing a piece of paper to it stating for payment of the sight of the sum of £734.11 then below put transferred by your name then below your NI number then below none commercial customer then below endorsed by your name and date, then below this bill of exchange is hereby transferred by endorsement, try this method and let us know your outcome, you must then prepare a bundle against the what ever corporation  and for court


How to fill in Bank Giro Credit Slip -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsahROo61Sk

Wesley Ahmed explains how to fill out a Bank Giro Credit Slip

through the bill of exchange you can try 3 postage stamps on it at the front on the credit slip signed and dated but it must be above the tear off part of the document, you then need another stamp on the return at the back which means you have taken control of the document, again above the tear part of the document you then attach a piece of paper to the front and write at a diagonal from left to right going upwards none transferable you then stick another peace of paper on the back so you are not touching the document but gluing a piece of paper to it stating this bill of exchange is hereby transferred by endorsement,then below, for payment of the sight of the sum of £734.11 then below put transferred by your name then below your NI number then below none commercial customer then below endorsed by your name and date,, try this method and let us know your outcome, you must then prepare a bundle against the what ever corporation, make sure you photo copy it 3 times for your own records and in case they pursue you through the courts        for the record

save this

it may come in handy one day

goes on the back of your giro credit slip aka cheque



The bill of exchange is hereby transferred by endorsement



To_____HMRC__________________________________



For payment at the sight of the sum of________________



Transferred by____YOUR NAME___________________



Of__YOUR ADDRESS____________________________



______________________________________________



NI No_________________________________________



Endorsed by _________YOUR NAME________________



Date __________________________________________



dont forget on the front NON-TRANSFERABLE on a 45 degree angle from left to right

ENJOY




Wesley Ahmed & the people Vs British Gas The Corporation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRpstChs8CI



British Gas cancels warrant of entry application to fit prepayment meter for Gas & electric.

If you check your paperwork the energy companies send you a statement which is a notice to pay. 

When infact your gas electric and water has already been paid through the bill of exchange. 

If you tell your energy company that you would like a bill they actually send you a Joint Giro Credit Slip which is infact is a cheque, but you can’t cash it. 

Me and Jay Bradley did a video  last year in the post office, we walked into the post office but the post master could not facilitate us as he was not legally trained, please see link here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imNzl...

Ironically the Gas agent said he had spoken to British Gas legal team barristers and the barrister stated that we didn't know what we were doing and that our method of payment was a load of rubbish, however it was that much of a load of rubbish they had infact struck out there warrant application before we even entered the court building in Crewe Magistrates Administrative Law Center, Rubber clown stamping center.

The energy companies apply for a warrant of entry under the 1954 gas & electricity act under health and safety. 

They also use the gas and electricity act 1986 for monitory purposes. 

However if you endorse your Joint Giro Credit slip and send it back to the utility companies you have then transferred the joint Giro credit slip back as you can’t transfer it, cash it in at a post office or bank as its non transferrable they have to accept your Joint Giro credit as full and final payment which then Zeros your account, see the link here on how to endorse your joint Giro credit slip   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsahR...

The gas agent stated that I must have paid my bill as that’s why they had struck out the warrant; I told the warrant officer that I had not paid the alleged debt off with cash sterling and that infact I had paid it through the bill of exchange to that the gas agent walked off in a panic as he did not want to accept what was being said to him by myself, Kevin Marks & Steve Spy.

Also we put the gas agent on notice that his actions and any other actions by another gas agent now and in the foreseeable future under penalty of perjury will be in breach of the fraud act 2006 protection from harassment act 2006 and knowingly will be committing fraud.

I would like to thank Paul Webster, Kevin Mark, Steve Spy, Eric and Peter of England who attended today. 

British Gas 0 Vs 1 Beat the Bailiffs and Banks.

Victory to the people 

Power to the people 

Love and light with love is the only way to fight xxx



Your Gas, Water and Electricity should be Free -

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxfJjOK2w...e=youtu.be


Your gas, electric and water should be free



Are you still paying for water STOP watch to THE END LINK  -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m_aZ...  -  SriLankerC



Gas, Water & Electric are FREE LINK  -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkZrz...  -  SriLankerC



HOW TO PAY BY ENDORSEMENT LINK  -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B8vG...  -  SriLankerC

FULL VIDEO - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QnQe...  -  mark seylon



Paying bills by endorsing the Giro-credit slip using Postage stamps LINK  -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A73YJ...  -  Steve Spy


stop paying for water LINK  -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vxby...  -  SriLankerC

[Steve]

Fight Debt Via Legal Title -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGcO0exQNSI

[Steve]

End Your Debt, Right Now -

https://youtu.be/u8qmGfZa_Jc

[Steve]

Council Tax, gas and electric PDF files coming next week ..

https://youtu.be/mLEl3ObZquE

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fight Debt Via Legal Title Using Data Protection Rules -

Learn how to use their own rules against them.

They break their own rules every day and in every way.
They just hope that you do not know the rules and will panic.
These debt companies have no standing in law and use fear and dirty tactics.
Learn how to beat them at their own game using their own rules.

https://youtu.be/eGcO0exQNSI

[Steve]

So how do we access our money?
- Cestui Que Vie account / https://www.gmeiutility.org/

https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawcommo...418549514/

[Steve]

Telegram - https://t.me/ExposeThePEDOSendTheCABAL/16913

THEY CAN'T TAKE YOUR PROPERTY AWAY. 

MAKE IT VIRAL!!!

WHEN YOU WERE BORN, THE GOVERNMENT USED YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE TO CREATE A FICTITIOUS PERSON WITH A PAPER ACCOUNT THAT IS USED FOR TRADING. 

THERE ARE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN YOUR ACCOUNT. 

WHEN YOU TAKE OUT A LOAN WITH A BANK, YOU ARE NOT TOLD THAT YOUR ACCOUNT (CALLED THE "CESTUI QUE VIE" ACCOUNT) PROVIDES THE MONEY FOR YOUR LOAN. WHEN YOU SIGN YOUR PROMISSORY BILL, YOU AGREE THAT THE MONEY WILL BE DEDUCTED FROM YOUR ESCROW ACCOUNT TO PAY FOR THE PURCHASE. WHEN YOU GIVE THE SIGNED PROMISSORY BILL TO THE BANK, YOU HAVE JUST PAID THEM FOR THE MONEY YOU THINK THEY NEED. THE BANK THEN LOANS YOU THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THE PURCHASE AND CHARGES YOU INTEREST ON THE REPAYMENT OF YOUR OWN MONEY. 

HOWEVER, THE BANK NEVER PAYS TAXES ON THE MONEY THEY RECEIVED FROM THEIR TRUST BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT ARRANGED A CORRUPT SCAM TO TAKE THEIR MONEY (TWICE) PLUS INTEREST.

THIS VIDEO IS AWESOME! 

THIS GUY NAILED THIS BANKER TO THE WALL!

THEY CAN'T TAKE YOUR HOUSE OR PROPERTY BECAUSE YOU PAID FOR IT UP FRONT WHEN THEY MADE YOU THINK YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY FOR IT. 

@FUCKtheJAB
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@ExposeThePEDOSendTheCABAL

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https://youtu.be/qi7TscCIo_g - What Banks, Governments and federal Law Firms Hope You Never Discover Mortgage Fraud Scam Exposed

[Steve]

Global populist uprising is accelerating as people of the world reject tyranny -

Humanity may be finally coming to its senses. Although a great many are still mentally suckered into every "next thing" being pushed by the corporate media, more and more people are waking up and realizing how they've been living under a global criminal cartel their entire lives. They've reached a "That's enough!" point and are now actively opposing tyranny, lockdowns, corruption and perversion -- all of which define the globalist crime cartel that pretends to be supported by "democracy."
After two years of suffering under covid and now watching fuel and food prices skyrocket, many people have reached their limit of abuse. In the months ahead, you are going to see a rapid, global explosion in protests and riots as people lash out against the abject corruption and criminality of their political leaders.


https://www.brighteon.com/1f835c59-eb84-...6df8bd8020

[Steve]

FB POST - (Contract Law, Commercial Liens and Controlling your Strawman)

Question 

Hey guys,

So been following the page loosely as we have a 3 month old lid and I haven't been able to do much research of late.

So basically we were with pure planet for gas and electricity, when they 'went bust' we paid up in full to male sure there was no residual issues with the account.

We were then informed by email, that Shell energy were our new supplier and they would be in touch. Since then we have had all smart meters removed and haven't replied to any correspondence ( no contract, no obligation) but have recently been receiving texts and calls saying that Advanced Collection Systems  has been allocated for debt recovery  on behalf of Shell energy.

Obviously my missus is getting concerned and I don't want her to get stressed as we have enough on at the moment. I would like to end this nonsense, so is my best course of action a DSAR?

We never agreed to a new billing agent, and they have been passed on our details without our permission, so wasn't sure what angle to go with. If anyone has any suggestions please let me know

I am planning to contact Darren and start the whole private Trust process in the near future also.


Answers

Energy suppliers are operating as a credit broker so under the consumer credit act 1974 their has to be a signed credit agreement by both parties section 61 your also protected under section 155 https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1974/39/section/61

Credit Brokers Explained 
https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/debt-a...explained/

Ofgem tried to force me with Shell, if you look at the emails you receive your see the support is done by Zendesk a outside company

Same as me, ask shell if they have a contract with you, they will confirm not, job done 

I asked for a bank Giro Credit slip off Shell, but they refused so I've sent them a promissary note  getting my own meters installed in a few weeks and ending any so called contract.


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FB POST - (Contract Law, Commercial Liens and Controlling your Strawman)

Warrant of Entry Post Gas Meter Exchange 

So you paid a qualified engineer to change your gas meter and, for whatever reason, you find yourself with enforcement agents (and possibly police) at your door waving around a “warrant of entry” claiming that they have grounds due to the possibility you have an unsafe device fitted. 

What are you going to do?

1. Do not answer to or give your name

2. Ask to see the warrant

3. Check the warrant is valid with local court

4. Ask what grounds they have for their claim

Do not let them in.  If you find yourself in a situation where you feel you have no choice or they gain access without your permission then please take note of the following information that I found in the gas act legislation. 

2)

The Secretary of State may by regulations make provision for empowering any officer authorised by the relevant authority—

(a)

to enter any premises in which there is a service pipe connected with a gas main, for the purpose of inspecting any gas fitting on the premises, any flue or means of ventilation used in connection with any such gas fitting, or [F2any part of the gas system on the premises, that is to say,]any service pipe or other apparatus (not being a gas fitting) which is on the premises and is used for the [F2conveyance or]supply of gas or is connected with a gas main;

(b)

where he so enters any such premises, to examine or apply any test to any such object as is mentioned in paragraph (a) above and (where the object is a gas fitting) to verify what supply of air is available for it; and

©

where in his opinion it is necessary to do so for the purpose of averting danger to life or property, and notwithstanding any contract previously existing, to disconnect and seal off any gas fitting or any part of the [F3gas system on the premises, or disconnect the premises or, if the premises are not connected, to signify the refusal of the relevant authority to convey gas or, as the case may be, allow gas to be conveyed to the premises].

(3)

Where any regulations under subsection (2) above confer any power in accordance with paragraph © of that subsection, the regulations shall also include provision—

(a)

for securing that, where any such power is exercised, the consumer will be notified as to the nature of the defect or other circumstances in consequence of which it has been exercised;

(b)

for enabling any consumer so notified to appeal to the Secretary of State on the grounds that the defect or other circumstances in question did not constitute a danger such as to justify the action taken in the exercise of the power, or did not exist or have ceased to exist; and

©

for enabling the Secretary of State to give such directions as may in accordance with the regulations be determined by him to be appropriate in consequence of any such appeal.


What Does This Mean For You?

It means that should they enter your property and make the decision to remove the meter you had fitted and replace it or cap your supply pending a reconnection process then they must inform you of why they are taking any action.  They are limited to safety issues in order to remove a device or interrupt your supply.

If they can present no safety issue then they can not remove your property. 

They must also inform you of your right to appeal their decision. 

Again, these bullies are entering peoples homes and not following the regulations by which they are bound and WE are allowing them to get away with it.  

Please share this information and never forget that knowledge is power.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1986/44/section/18


Comments -

get a gas safety cert and an electrical safety cert tho they still might disconnect you.

depends on many things….

They can only enter your property for safety reasons and the warrant is for the engineer not the police cos they aren't qualified and would need to prove otherwise. Keep the police outside as it may not be safe in your property ( ?  )  just wait there with them let the engineer do his job and get a gas report from him. To be honest there isnt a utility in the whole UK that an engineer couldn't find a fault with from a loose fitting to a ventilation issue

Ronnie Archer  this post doesn’t refer to what they are supposed to do, it referred to what has actually been happening to some people in certain situations.  The police, enforcement agents and gas engineers have far too much room to abuse any powers of entry they think they have and I can tell you that they do abuse them on a regular basis.

a debt collector or police person cannot inspect it, they would need to send a certified gas engineer, surely?

[Steve]

Bills of Exchange … https://youtu.be/8pGvnP22euY

Key points:

After the Napoleonic wars of 1815, the Rothschilds bankrupted the United Kingdom by selling all their stocks and shares. They knew that because of their status within the financial world as the main player, everyone would copy and do the same (which they did!). When the value was at rock bottom they came back in and bought everything. To this day, they (Blackrock and Vanguard) still own every industry in the world including oil and pharmaceutical companies, all mainstream media organisations, education (large universities, schools) and more - all of these seemingly disparate systems are connected and funded by the same hand. This is very important to understand. The Rothschilds are just one faction of the Black Nobility bloodline who rule above them (a more complex topic for another conversation).

After this orchestrated bankruptcy, people were ordered to hand in their gold and silver in exchange for promissory notes (the cash system we have today) and the gold standard was officially removed in 1931 (UK) and 1933 (US) meaning money is backed by nothing and so was the birth of a new control system. Since people were essentially forced to hand over their wealth and were now being used as collateral for the central bank loans, a deal was struck that every man and woman would have a share of the natural resources (i.e. energy, water etc) which basically meant free access to energy! This was part of the deal. The main resource at the time was coal and this was given freely to everyone.

Soon the use of coal advanced in to the production of electricity & gas - which again, was free for the people based on this original exchange deal. It wasn’t long before the Rothschild empire + the elitist bankers wanted to expand business and gain monopoly over these new energy sources. 

At the time there were strikes from the coal miners who weren’t being paid fairly & demanded better working conditions. Governments were instructed to orchestrate power cuts so the public would be frustrated thinking it was due to the coal miner strikes. 

Using propaganda and PR trickery, the idea was sold that in order to solve these problems in the mines and stop power cuts, energy distribution would need to be monitored in order to keep track of how much power was being used in each household. This vague, almost nonsensical reason was promoted heavily using psychologically manipulative slogans/techniques and media campaigns to convince people to allow the installation of a meter in their home for ‘just a very small cost’ per month. 

Using quotes such as ‘to make it fair for everyone!’ and ‘to keep you and your neighbours safe!’ this new, fraudulent system was accepted by the masses without any questioning or understanding that this went against the initial deal and was essentially a giant scam by the bankers to expand business. 

The public were desperate to have running electricity again. What reason did they have to disbelieve what they were being told? They just wanted to heat and light their home without issues! 

It is important to understand that the monthly charge was NOT and still to this day is not for the usage of electricity like we are told, but rather for the rental of the meter.

    
UTILITY BILL - NO CONTRACT - NO LIABILITY

Do you remember ever physically signing a wet ink signature contract with your electricity or water company? Or for council tax, TV license etc? It is important to understand that ANY company asking you to make a payment without there first being a wet ink signature contract signed by both parties is FRAUD. 

You have every legal right to cancel your payments and claim this money back. It does not matter how big of a name the company is whether it is British Gas, EON, EDF, Southern Water or Octopus etc - we were never asked to sign a wet ink signature contract with them, therefore it is not legally binding and you are not breaking any law by refusing to pay for these services - remember: they are already paid for based on the original exchange deal for giving up the gold standard in the 1800s. 

They have managed to continue this fraudulent ‘meter rental’ business for over a 100 years through our ignorance to all of this information - it is that simple. In further relation to the ‘water’ service provided, tap water contains very very high traces of poisonous chemicals - why should we pay to be poisoned? See below for an example of a letter you can send to your water company. They legally cannot shut off your electricity or water if you do not pay, nor can you go to prison like they would have you believe.

Further below I will lay out the simple steps to claim your money back lawfully. It is imperative to understand these companies have zero power without your consent. Whenever you are sent letters from bailiffs, debt collectors etc, these are empty threats designed to scare you in to consenting and paying money that you do not owe. 

All you need to do is write back and simply ask for proof of a wet signature contract between yourself and the company you are said to owe money to. It doesn’t need to be dramatic or confrontational, you are simply asking questions which they cannot answer in their favour. 

Again, the continuation of these companies solely depends on the public’s ignorance to this simple information. This can be very difficult to get our heads around, because paying for these things has been deeply woven in to society - our parents did it, our grandparents did it - we just assume that’s what ‘needs to be done’ and we will be in trouble if we stop paying. But the more we understand it is fraud on a fundamental level; that all of these resources are free, we can politely decline these offers through asking for proof of wet ink signature contract and proof of any law that says we are liable to pay.

https://t.me/allmetersremoved

What makes a utility supplier a legal supplier under the U.K. legislation rule?

Firstly a supplier must follow the metering act by installing a measurement device for the record of usage.... If no meter is installed measuring any use-age then this will constitute as- “A THEFT OF”... gas-electric-or water for example and this is why all suppliers must install measurement devices in their customers homes.... All the customers of a suppliers meter readings are collected yearly and then sent as one whole reading/measurement in order to be charged for this collective usage....

The second requirement of a supplier is-“they must use a”COMPETENT”-engineer as stated in the gas industry rules and regulations but never states qualified only under gas safe....

The third requirement is an established contract of a customer requiring the suppliers services under their terms and conditions....

By the supplier having a meter-[measurement device]-in a customers property gives the supplier an implied right of access to their property...

There is nothing in law stating we must contract with anyone and we all hold the right to create our own: “ Termination of contract and service notice” for example in writing whilst either sending their property back or retaining until they collect if written in notice as by our example notices bond with this script....

We can buy privately our measurement devices-[meters]-on eBay and need the following for most domestic Properties as follows:

Gas = U6 or G4 domestic gas meter and Electric = Single phase 100 amp electric meter !

Once notice-[contract]-is written we serve addressing the CEO by their name-[private]-and not title in a brown envelope-[private]-using a special delivery mail-[private mail]-then we install meters on the first day the first notice is served by a competent engineer so we are measuring our usage and therefore is no theft of...

We must now get a landlord safety certificate-[CP12]-for our gas by using a gas safe registered engineer who will give certification of the installation being safe even though they do not know we change meters which therefore will rebut any presumptions of a war-rant stating the installation or property is not safe which should cost around £50 on average.... On this certificate will state the emergency control valve-[ECV]-is safe and also that there are no Keane if gas which is needed to rebutt their presumed war-rant...

First notice we give usually fourteen-(14)-days

Second reminder notice we give another fourteen-(14)-days

Third being a certificate of failure usually giving seven-(7)-days = [35 days total].

There is no supplier who will like this method even though this is following all principles of contractual law and so, are known to operate corruptly and fraudulently  due to their ignorance of law.

As structured below all chief executive officers and authorised representatives must follow the legislation to operate as a supplier or corporation and in turn use the judiciary for any legal matters or operations within their corporation/supplier but this is not the case as these corporations and chief executive officers hire a room under the local magistrates court for half day in order to write their own war-rants and then a solicitor to come and stamp them using a fictitious title such as-“Chief magistrate”-and not their name so they are not liable using the address then of the court to make it look official...

If ever a war-rant is issued to us we must ring the presumed court it was issued in order to clarify that this court did send this war-rant and as usual they always state no for this was written in a private office under the court using the courts address.

And our CP12 will rebut this anyway by stating the installations safety...

The problem is the engineer or bailiff or war-rant officer and the police are not educated on the difference of a real court issued war-rant and a counterfeit war-rant issued by a corporation using the address of the court....

Due to these war-rants being counterfeit they only enable what is known as a peaceful entry war-rant.... Meaning the maximum extent of these peaceful war-rants allows a lock Smith to only break key lock which must be replaced and so if we have a bolt for example on the inside once key lock broke they cannot peacefully enter past the internal bolt and so will walk away leaving card of locksmith who must come back alone when called by us in order to replace the lock they damaged which is considered to be part of a peaceful entry...

This method requires knowledge and balls to defend the corrupt actions of these corrupt bastards...

Once our first notice is served we now need to cancel any direct debits set up and ignore all phone calls by the supplier who will try to set up legal relations again over the phone....and any correspondence we need to not open and return to sender scribbling name and address out in window and then with this writing on it :

“ In-correct addressee.... Does not live here.... Return to sender.... Recorded for fraud purposes “

No war-rant can be issued Under the 1988 credit consumer act for a monetary dispute as it is a civil matter and so they use the 1954 Gas act by lying to the judge and saying they believe an installation in a property is not safe and may cause harm or injury to adjacent property if exploding for example.... But it is no judge as stated on above -(1)-issuing these from a real court....

And now enjoy our privileges of being our own lawful supplier of our own energy...

We can email national grid once per year if we choose with our meter serial numbers and our meter readings to prove our usage but this is not necessary just a personal choice of us as an individual.... I never do but we can!

We have annex three-(3)-very basic-“termination of contract notices”-for the people’s use to show how simple we can write these-“termination notices”-but can be as basic as we choose or dependent on knowledge may be written far better...

Less is more in this case we feel so the more basic the better....

I hope I have included all the information you require in order to make this available knowledge for the people on your channel Jez but if not please feel free to ask any questions etc etc

With this rule of not creating any legal relations by opening and accepting Mail and not returning and also by giving our name and details over the phone or in person.

P.S. we can check the suppliers website looking for the memorandums which will state they use the-“Bills of Exchange”-and the-“Promissory act”-.....


Templates - see ‘files’ section by following this link … https://t.me/allmetersremoved



Private and confidential

To Contracts Manager

Customer reference or account number Date:

NOTICE OF TERMINATION OF CONTRACT AND COLLECTION OF GAS AND ELECTRIC METERS

Notice to agent is notice to principle, notice to principal is notice to agent I am the tenant / owner of: [your property address here]



I do not require or wish your services, contract or equipment at this location. This is a formal notice to collect the below listed items:

1: (1) One decommissioned & boxed Gas meter – [Serial no: of meter]

2: (1) One decommissioned & boxed Electric meter – [Serial no: of meter]

Failure to collect these two decommissioned, boxed items within ( 14 ) Fourteen days from the date of this notice will result in your equipment being stored in private premises at a cost of ten (10) pounds per item per day to .....supplier......

By : John: Smith.- ..............................



Private and confidential

Béatrice Bigois – Managing Director, Customers And/or Contracts Manager

EDF Energy Customers LTD

90 Whitfield Street

London, W1T 4EZ

Account Number: 11111111111111 Date:

REMINDER TO

NOTICE OF TERMINATION OF CONTRACT AND

COLLECTION OF GAS AND ELECTRIC METERS

Notice to agent is notice to principle, notice to principal is notice to agent I am the tenant / owner of:

I do not require or wish your services, contract or equipment at this location and did sent notice on ...... [Date here of first notice].......

This is a formal notice to collect the below listed items: 1: (1) One decommissioned & boxed Gas meter – S/N:

2: (2) One decommissioned & boxed Electric meter – S/N:

Failure to collect these two decommissioned, boxed items within ( 14 ) Fourteen days from the date of this notice will result in your equipment being stored in private premises at a cost of ten (10) pounds per item per day to ...... supplier.......

By: John: Smith.- .............................









Private and confidential

Contracts Manager ADDRESS

Account Number: Date:

CERTIFICATE OF FAILURE OF NON-RESPONSE TO ALL NOTICES OF TERMINATION TO CONTRACT & COLLECTION OF GAS AND ELECTRIC METERS Notice to agent is notice to principle, notice to principal is notice to agent

I am the tenant/owner of:

I do not require or wish your services, contract or equipment at this location. I sent you notice on the & to terminate contract & remove/collect:

1: (1) One Gas meter – S/N:

2: (2) One Electric meter – S/N:

Failure to collect these two items within ( 7 ) Seven days from the date of this notice will result in your equipment being stored at a cost of £10 per day per device to ..... supplier ......

You have failed to respond to any/ all of my notices therefore I consider this matter final, closed, finished and extinguished upon your refusal and/or failure to respond and/or collect the items listed above.

Any future attempts to solicit monies and/or joinder from my person/s shall be dealt with lawfully.

Respectfully
BY : John: Smith.- ...............................

[Steve]

FB POST - Contract Law Private Trusts

Question -

Hi All,

Just received this letter from a debt collection company applying for a warrant in order to install pre payment meters or collect money.

As far as I know, and correct me if I’m wrong, using what is in effect a criminal warrant for a monetary issue is illegal. Also, forcing entry can only apply if there is a health and safety risk.

Anyway, a court hearing is due in about 3 weeks so any help and advice on the best way forward would be great…

I’m going to send a letter along the following lines …

I have agreed to pay all bills in full upon receipt of 

1) lawful contract; and

2) proper bill; and

3) full and complete statement of accounts.

For clarity, a lawful contract will include;

a) full disclosure [nothing added or removed after signing]; and

b) consideration [all signatories get what they want from the contract]; and

c) lawful terms and conditions [only fair!]; and

d) the wet signatures of all contracting parties.

Bill senders are reminded full VAT receipts are required for any and all transactions.


Answers - 

They have stated in the paperwork they are using the gas act which can only gain entry for health and safety (gas leak) as you mentioned and then use the electricity act to change the meters once in the property. You can either deadbolt the doors inside as they can only drill the lock (no forced entry allowed) or you can turn up to the court with a recent gas safety certificate to have the warrant withdrawn. They are applying for a criminal warrant for monetary purpose which is the wrong jurisdiction.

can they only drill ONE lock though?

If no one is at home... you cany bolt it. So.. we can add locks with key....?

you can buy electronic door handles which are a thing now which are keyless and you open with an app on the phone so no lock to drill. If they see three keyholes they may try and drill all of them, I have fitted three deadbolts on front and back door but not drilled the keyhole through so only work when I'm in the property.  I do have a rear gate that is locked, so they should not access that area but they do break the law.

I have fitted some remote controlled bolts which can be locked/unlocked from the outside 

If you haven't done so already, change your meters and when they come show them the old ones. This should stop them. It worked for us. Any attempt to remove your property is theft.

yes, was thinking about that but not sure whether to do it right now or not…

This letter isn’t even signed 

correct, so it’s more of a threat I would have thought

Yes exactly that I have not paid electric in years and just bin their letters. I live in council flats so hard for them to do anything,they would properly need permission from council to damage the door to the meter. For gas safety i'm not sure as I thought you can get an approved contractor to do that without your gas company approval.

No wet ink and it is not a warrant. lol!

All energy companies are operating as credit brokers and are supposed to tell you, mine does. So under the consumer credit act 1974 a signed credit agreement has to be signed by both parties section 61. Also under section 155 it says we're protected and if no credit agreement has been signed anything over £5 has to be refunded. Citizens advice have lots of useful information on this ….  https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/197...ection/155

Credit brokers explained … https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/debt-a...explained/

Taking action over credit brokers … https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/debt-a...t-brokers/

Thats interesting as their own legislation states the debt (bill whatever) is unenforceable same as debt collectors.

If the grid has been sold to Australia would the .gov websites into still apply?

Yeah the companies are still registered under companies house

Under the gas and electric act 2006 section 4 they are not allowed to fit a prepaid metre to collect a debt and if they do they are committing perjury upon you. I was nearly a victim of this

most people don't know this Frank!!!

Did you go to the court to challenge it?

didn't have to I proved the fraud

So you just did it via letters and notices after they sent you a notice to say they were coming to fit a prepayment meter? And was this dealing direct with the utility company? Sorry to ask a lot of questions, but it's always great to hear from people who have actually done it.

no paperwork the turned up up went to change m i show them what they were doing was perjury they took the m out their own M Out and left with me with nothing

So, did you put your own in after that?

Point number 4 …. https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2006/2011/made

I had British Gas turn up to my property and change my metered to prepaid when I wasn’t home! I had no idea they are committing perjury!!

Wonder if there is a way I can have them change back?!

County Courts Act 1984 … https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/198...ection/135

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/198...ection/135


135
Penalty for falsely pretending to act under authority of court.
Any person who—
(a)
delivers or causes to be delivered to any other person any paper falsely purporting to be a copy of any summons or other process of [F1the county court] , knowing it to be false; or
(b)
acts or professes to act under any false colour or pretence of the process or authority of [F1the county court] ;
shall be guilty of an offence and shall for each offence be liable on conviction on indictment to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 7 years.


So you paid a qualified engineer to change your gas meter and, for whatever reason, you find yourself with enforcement agents (and possibly police) at your door waving around a “warrant of entry” claiming that they have grounds due to the possibility you have an unsafe device fitted.  

What are you going to do? 

1. Do not answer to or give your name

2. Ask to see the warrant

3. Check the warrant is valid with local court

4. Ask what grounds they have for their claim

Do not let them in.  If you find yourself in a situation where you feel you have no choice or they gain access without your permission then please take note of the following information that I found in the gas act legislation.  

2)

The Secretary of State may by regulations make provision for empowering any officer authorised by the relevant authority—

(a)

to enter any premises in which there is a service pipe connected with a gas main, for the purpose of inspecting any gas fitting on the premises, any flue or means of ventilation used in connection with any such gas fitting, or [F2any part of the gas system on the premises, that is to say,]any service pipe or other apparatus (not being a gas fitting) which is on the premises and is used for the [F2conveyance or]supply of gas or is connected with a gas main;

(b)

where he so enters any such premises, to examine or apply any test to any such object as is mentioned in paragraph (a) above and (where the object is a gas fitting) to verify what supply of air is available for it; and

©

where in his opinion it is necessary to do so for the purpose of averting danger to life or property, and notwithstanding any contract previously existing, to disconnect and seal off any gas fitting or any part of the [F3gas system on the premises, or disconnect the premises or, if the premises are not connected, to signify the refusal of the relevant authority to convey gas or, as the case may be, allow gas to be conveyed to the premises].

(3)

Where any regulations under subsection (2) above confer any power in accordance with paragraph © of that subsection, the regulations shall also include provision—

(a)

for securing that, where any such power is exercised, the consumer will be notified as to the nature of the defect or other circumstances in consequence of which it has been exercised;

(b)

for enabling any consumer so notified to appeal to the Secretary of State on the grounds that the defect or other circumstances in question did not constitute a danger such as to justify the action taken in the exercise of the power, or did not exist or have ceased to exist; and

©

for enabling the Secretary of State to give such directions as may in accordance with the regulations be determined by him to be appropriate in consequence of any such appeal.

It means that should they enter your property and make the decision to remove the meter you had fitted and replace it or cap your supply pending a reconnection process then they must inform you of why they are taking any action.  They are limited to safety issues in order to remove a device or interrupt your supply.

If they can present no safety issue then they can not remove your property. 

They must also inform you of your right to appeal their decision. 

Again, these bullies are entering peoples homes and not following the regulations by which they are bound and WE are allowing them to get away with it. 

Please share this information and never forget that knowledge is power. 

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1986/44/section/18

great info there Julie! Many thanks

your welcome we've got to stick together

Correct, nothing in the act states the removal of property for a monetary issue. That's why they use the 1989 electricity act which needs consent.

also it doesn't  say a prepaid meter can be fitted.  Surely  if the meter  us unsafe  then they have to put the same kind of meter?

Gas Act 1986 … https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1986/44/section/18

I wouldn't worry about it tbh if you decide to go court(can't see why you would) just ask the judge one thing,for the gas/electric company to show your contract you both signed and it's terms and conditions.

where you have written: I have agreed to pay all bills in full upon receipt of

1) lawful contract; and

2) proper bill; and
3) full and complete statement of accounts.

 -  also add the legislations which apply. also a copy of your safety certificate if its gas.

Send a copy of a safety certificate to the collection agency/Utility supplier/court (they intend to apply to)... under the Gas Act - misleading the Court by saying they fear there may be a gas leak and you are denying entry... supply the safety certificate then they are stuffed... No warrant can be issued (even though it is a fake Warrant and they come from the utility companies... but that’s another story 

Send the court a copy of your gas safety certificate then they cannot issue a warrant of entry as that can only be issued in regards to safety so phone court and ask who to send it to and the case number

The warrants are fake anyway and come from Northampton business centre, no judge signs them or anyone legally trained works there

yes I know but better to interrupt the process

I need to get a safety certificate luckily I've got gas and electric with two different suppliers and stopped the electric when my previous billing agent supposedly went bust last September and Ogem tried to force me with Shell energy they trying to chase me but I've told them I've not set up a account or have no contract with them

any corgi registered plumber or gas fitter can give you a certificate. It’s the system the check not the meter although they do pressure test the meter. Don’t tell them you changed it though as most are not awake enough to know it’s perfectly legal

So how do you stop letting them in

don’t open the door and put a trespass notice outside


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Can someone please help me please my energy supplier went bust back in November they passed on my details to Scottish Power without my permission I’m not in a contract with anybody then I received this letter today what can I do I’m going to get my metres changed soon I’ve heard of people paying up the final amount and then being free but why are they paying the final amount if we shouldn’t be paying anyway? 


Answers -

why ask? Don't sweat the small stuff. This is a debt collector a third party interloper, send them a DSAR stating they have No business with you

don't answer it. These people have no legal standing whatsoever. You have no contract with them. Send them a cease and desist order along with a DSAR

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ML16...ue&sd=true

edit that DSAR to suit the situation and send it to the Diretor of the debt collection scumbags

Notice how they've addressed you. Your name then /The Occupier. They are looking for joinder. They aren't sure if it's you or someone else at the property. You have no CONtract with them, it's not your problem that your previous supplier went bust. Ignore or return to sender.

please don't be worrying about it, we are all here to help each other. Look at how the letter is worded, it's full of unfounded threats we "can" doesn't mean they will. Have you made any contact with Scottish Power or this debt collection agency since your previous supplier went bust? The way I read this letter is that they are begging you to make contact so that they can create joinder with you. When there's no contract and no contact there's not a lot they can do. If they are going to try and get a warrant then they need to be sure it's in your legal fiction name. Don't worry about the threats of gaining entry to fit a pre payment meter, they can't do that for a monetary dispute.

When my supplier went bust I stupidly contacted Scottish power to ask why my details have been passed on to them I didn’t give any bank details or anything since then I have emailed to ask them for a copy of the contract that I would’ve signed in ink And they keep replying to say no contract needs to be signed they have sent so many emails constantly but I’ve never replied since so I did make contact at first Because I wasn’t aware back in November of any of this fraud xx

I'm in the same situation. My energy company went bust last September and Octopus took over. I stupidly sent them a couple of readings and they had my warm home discount, too. They've given me a deadline of the 19th - so this Tuesday - to respond. I'm dithering as to what to do. On the one hand, people say it's a cleaner cut-off if you pay anything outstanding up to when you put your meters in. But I resent the outrageous charges for energy that I didn't consent to. Don't know what to do for the best.

there's a few ways you can deal with this. Like Peter advised, send them the DSAR and fight back. They are likely to not send what you've asked for and delay things. If they do that you can take it to the ICO. It will take many months to get a response from them as the have a backlog before your complaint gets passed on to a case officer. Scottish Power now have joinder with you and will continue to pester. They say they don't need to provide a contract as it's based on a "deemed contract" which is fraudulent to start with. You can also completely ignore them for now on and block the emails (if you have that option) and return to sender all letters. Or if you are getting your own meters fitted, you could pay them and that will end the matter. My personal way of dealing with them would be to ignore until they follow through with their threats and then call them out on their fraud x

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