[Robvalue]

This is a strange idea I had recently, after looking into the "flat Earth" stuff. I combined this with the idea that much of mainstream science is indoctrination, to come up with an idea that bridges the gap. I have no evidence of it, I’m just brainstorming.

What if the Earth is vaguely spherical, but it is actually far larger than we are told? What if the whole of what we are told is "The Earth" is actually just a section of a much larger planet? I think that conning people into believing this would be very easy, if this was the case.

So when someone goes "around the world", they’re really circling around the North Pole, as per the flat earth model. The "South Pole" is really the circumference of our "zoo", again as per the flat earth. But then the earth continues past that, with a much larger diameter than we’ve been told.

Seeing as the curvature would be so tiny in such a zoo, it would be easy to get some people to believe it is flat. And through "science", others believe it’s a (small) sphere. What if the truth is actually between these two extremes?

This may be utter nonsense, of course. I don’t know if there’s any practical way I could investigate this.

[Robvalue]

I’m disregarding much of what NASA has to show/say, as it’s largely a psy op IMO.

The whole "virgin galactic" thing might put the kibosh on this theory though. If members of the public are really allowed to go up into space, they’re surely going to see the true shape of the Earth. I don’t know how flat Earth theory will deal with this. I’m just interested in the truth, not trying to bash anyone else’s beliefs.

It was just a passing idea. It made some sort of intuitive sense, but I don’t see how anything except the spherical model is going to withstand public space travel. I guess they’d have to be severely fooled in some way, which isn’t beyond the realms of possibility either.

[awakened53]

This is a strange idea I had recently, after looking into the "flat Earth" stuff. I combined this with the idea that much of mainstream science is indoctrination, to come up with an idea that bridges the gap. I have no evidence of it, I’m just brainstorming.

What if the Earth is vaguely spherical, but it is actually far larger than we are told? What if the whole of what we are told is "The Earth" is actually just a section of a much larger planet? I think that conning people into believing this would be very easy, if this was the case.

So when someone goes "around the world", they’re really circling around the North Pole, as per the flat earth model. The "South Pole" is really the circumference of our "zoo", again as per the flat earth. But then the earth continues past that, with a much larger diameter than we’ve been told.

Seeing as the curvature would be so tiny in such a zoo, it would be easy to get some people to believe it is flat. And through "science", others believe it’s a (small) sphere. What if the truth is actually between these two extremes?

This may be utter nonsense, of course. I don’t know if there’s any practical way I could investigate this.

Hi Rob...

You may want to check out the Convex Earth Documentary as it does throw up some interesting theories based on scientific research

https://youtu.be/McdMMmclGVc

[Robvalue]

Great thanks, I’ll check that out

I’m now wondering whether the whole Virgin Galactic thing is just a psy op and no genuine person from the public is really going to get to go up there. I feel they're lying so much about space that I can’t see them letting Joe Bloggs up there to pull at the threads.

[Robvalue]

This is a strange idea I had recently, after looking into the "flat Earth" stuff. I combined this with the idea that much of mainstream science is indoctrination, to come up with an idea that bridges the gap. I have no evidence of it, I’m just brainstorming.

What if the Earth is vaguely spherical, but it is actually far larger than we are told? What if the whole of what we are told is "The Earth" is actually just a section of a much larger planet? I think that conning people into believing this would be very easy, if this was the case.

So when someone goes "around the world", they’re really circling around the North Pole, as per the flat earth model. The "South Pole" is really the circumference of our "zoo", again as per the flat earth. But then the earth continues past that, with a much larger diameter than we’ve been told.

Seeing as the curvature would be so tiny in such a zoo, it would be easy to get some people to believe it is flat. And through "science", others believe it’s a (small) sphere. What if the truth is actually between these two extremes?

This may be utter nonsense, of course. I don’t know if there’s any practical way I could investigate this.

Hi Rob...

You may want to check out the Convex Earth Documentary as it does throw up some interesting theories based on scientific research

https://youtu.be/McdMMmclGVc

That is very interesting. If I’m understanding correctly, the results here indicate a misshapen Earth with a large flat section. So this is kind of what I was talking about, except there is no curvature in our "zoo".

The problem here is that most people will reject wholesale any experiment which appears to contradict widely held scientific beliefs. From my point of view, I have no way of verifying myself what they have discovered, but I don’t instantly reject it either. Do you guys think this is true?

If we assume for now that such a model is in fact accurate, it raises the following questions for me. Any ideas welcome!

1) This shape would appear to me to be artificial. Was part of the earth shaved off to provide this flat living space? If so this obviously goes along with the theory that some alien race is manipulating things and maybe genetically engineered us from Homanoids.

2) How did mainstream science get this wrong in the first place?

3) If mainstream science knows their models are really false, what is their motivation? The obvious one to me goes back to point 1. If we're being manipulated, they don’t want us to know about it. So they plant the false model when we're advanced enough to be able to "accept" it.

4) What’s going on round the other side? I’ve heard that the Powers That Be have Deep Underground Military Bases where all the real science goes on. But do they also travel to the rest of the Earth's surface? For all we know, there could be another flat section I guess.

5) Are the populace ever going to find out? With the inability to travel such distances, I’m guessing not. We’re never going to be given their secret "anti grav" field technology which would make finding out a doddle. We'll soon all be slaves to 5G, augmenting technology and social credit and that will be the end of our chances.

6) What’s the point of all this, assuming an alien race is behind it? What do they ultimately want from us or this planet? The idea that it’s just gold or some such seems way too simple.

7) I wonder if Virgin Galactic are going to use carefully designed windows/viewing tech to make the earth appear as a globe while hovering over the flat section. Perfect psy op.

[JTTHEGAME]

I’m disregarding much of what NASA has to show/say, as it’s largely a psy op IMO.

The whole "virgin galactic" thing might put the kibosh on this theory though. If members of the public are really allowed to go up into space, they’re surely going to see the true shape of the Earth. I don’t know how flat Earth theory will deal with this. I’m just interested in the truth, not trying to bash anyone else’s beliefs.

It was just a passing idea. It made some sort of intuitive sense, but I don’t see how anything except the spherical model is going to withstand public space travel. I guess they’d have to be severely fooled in some way, which isn’t beyond the realms of possibility either.

First of the earth is a level plane. the behaviour of liquid demonstrates this. water will take the shape of the container and form a level plane on the surface it behaves this way regardless of the size of the container this behaviour contradicts the globe. No where in the objective reality we all share does water curve and bend around the outside of a shape. 


Secondly if the earth were a globe we would not be applying Euclidian geometry in construction and navigation  as that type of geometry assumes a plane and is not concerned with curved surfaces.

And finally the Vacuum of space is a myth. we live in gas pressure. Now in order for a vacuum to exist next to gas pressure there has to be a solid barrier. That is a fact of this objective reality we share.  High pressure will move to low pressure yet the globe claims we are all born into claims there is a low pressure environment know as a vacuum is up there with no barrier which is impossible in reality.  Don't ignore your direct experiance in favour of an image sophistry and the formal science that is maths.

[Robvalue]

For sure, I’ve realised that much of "science" is just brainwashing. I’ve become aware that even the "Big Bang" may be invented nonsense. A guy called Sky Scholar on YouTube challenges much mainstream science in a rigorous way.

Regarding curving water, surely you’d need a massively long object before you’d observe it, since the Earth is so big. At a relatively small scale, a supposedly spherical Earth is virtually flat, to the point where the difference would be almost impossible to notice.

My mind is totally open to possibilities. Learning the truth is a very difficult task. If we are indeed living on a huge flat section carved into an even bigger Earth, then it would be even harder to ever observe curving effects.

If the Earth is actually just flat entirely, I wonder why they are so concerned with making us think it’s a globe? Is it to divert our attention away from what lies outside of the "South Pole" (which would actually be a ring of ice)?

[Robvalue]

I’ve been trying to understand the "flat earth" position, as in completely flat. I assume that the Earth is considered to be finite; I’m not sure if the Antarctic ice ring is supposed to be the edge or if there’s more after that. Either way, I also assume that the shape would be some sort of prism, since it obviously does have some depth.

From reading some flat earth material, I’ve heard mention of a force which is causing this prism to rise, which causes what we would usually refer to as gravity. I’ve no idea where this comes from or what evidence there is for this.

I feel like this sort of argument must be used if the "water being level" is being presented too, since the regular theory of gravity would still not account for this. The latter would imply that water is being pulled towards the centre of gravity of the prism, which would not be in parallel as with the "rising earth".

I don’t know what’s going on, really. If I had to guess, I expect there’s at least some deception about our planet, although I’m not sure why. Misinformation for the sake of it doesn’t seem enough of an answer. Making us think our "zoo" is in fact the whole of the earth when it is not would make sense however, if there were other things going on outside of the zoo that they don’t want us questioning.

Of course, if we could easily travel as fast and far as we want, we'd soon be able to see if the Antarctic is a pole or a ring, and what (if anything) is beyond it; but such technology will likely never be available to be the public. I’ve wondered if the DUMBS (deep underground military bases) are another level of psy op:

First level: Area 51, to focus attention on the surface
Second level: DUMBS, for those who don’t buy the main narrative, to keep us focused within the "zoo" area
Truth: The things they never want us to see are located outside the zoo entirely

Just a theory.